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  • kidrock
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 16407

    #106
    Originally posted by skids View Post
    I guess I would just point out one difference. The "rich" are taking advantage of the laws concerning THEIR money. Those on welfare are taking advantage of the law concerning OTHER people's money.
    Very true but, they are still doing nothing wrong though because,after all its the law.

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    • 15D
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 239

      #107
      Originally posted by kidrock View Post
      Very true but, they are still doing nothing wrong though because,after all its the law.
      On the Federal Level I would say that laws like these are unconstitutional. The Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment should make it very difficult to provide a service to one person but not another. Income or any basis other than being designated as being part of a protected class should not be a factor in determining who gets what perks/bene's from the Feds. Essentially if one gets it, then all should get it.

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      • mudslinger47
        Banned
        • May 2007
        • 3452

        #108
        Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
        Your the one that's slow if you think they do what you want because you vote for them. We may have a vote but money buys those kind of laws.
        Then you vote the guy out...come on your not stupid.... ever hear of the TEA party? Thats what they do....vote the bums out....

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        • kidrock
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 16407

          #109
          Originally posted by 15D View Post
          On the Federal Level I would say that laws like these are unconstitutional. The Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment should make it very difficult to provide a service to one person but not another. Income or any basis other than being designated as being part of a protected class should not be a factor in determining who gets what perks/bene's from the Feds. Essentially if one gets it, then all should get it.
          Well it's the law until someone fights in a court of law and a judge rules it unconstitutional so, as of right now no one is doing anything wrong.

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          • racin6mod
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 2172

            #110
            Originally posted by skids View Post
            I guess I would just point out one difference. The "rich" are taking advantage of the laws concerning THEIR money. Those on welfare are taking advantage of the law concerning OTHER people's money.
            Another difference is some of those poor on welfare are veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. A young man up the street was set to Iraq 3 time got hurt and can't find work his unemployment was stopped and he has been forced into the welfare system. We forget not all on welfare are lazy fat black women with 6 kids from 5 fathers like some want us to believe. unemployment rate for vets is the highest in the country.

            I saw this week a bunch of ex cops and fire fighters from ny have been arrested for cheating the system cense 911.

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            • LITE-INN
              Banned
              • Feb 2008
              • 12473

              #111
              betcha your wrong its been done before do a search

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              • mudslinger47
                Banned
                • May 2007
                • 3452

                #112
                LOL ya know what cracks me up, people that want the "rich" to pay their fair share, A) seem to think it will somehow lighten thier load and B) would probably do the same thing the "rich" guy if they were in their shoes....

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                • Bubstr
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 3734

                  #113
                  The laws that don't treat everyone equal may be legal and still not moral. I've always had a problem with a legal system that punishes a kid with 2 years prison for a couple joints in his pocket and a 30 day suspended sentence for some one beating another with in an inch of his life. If your rich and white you can commit manslaughter and never go to jail. If your not, a kid can go to a reformatory for a year for stealing lunch money.

                  There is a big difference between legal and right.

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                  • kidrock
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 16407

                    #114
                    Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
                    The laws that don't treat everyone equal may be legal and still not moral. I've always had a problem with a legal system that punishes a kid with 2 years prison for a couple joints in his pocket and a 30 day suspended sentence for some one beating another with in an inch of his life. If your rich and white you can commit manslaughter and never go to jail. If your not, a kid can go to a reformatory for a year for stealing lunch money.

                    There is a big difference between legal and right.
                    Yeah it's unfortunate how are judicial system works because it sure seems like if you have money you play by a different set of rules. If you don't think so just look at some cases and you will see real quick it's true, just look at Hollywood and the famous people and how they are always getting out of trouble or a professional athlete or those on wall st.

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                    • LITE-INN
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 12473

                      #115
                      Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
                      LOL ya know what cracks me up, people that want the "rich" to pay their fair share, A) seem to think it will somehow lighten thier load and B) would probably do the same thing the "rich" guy if they were in their shoes....
                      you can't fix stupid

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