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  • backspace
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 984

    #76
    There is no reason why Clinton is not in jail... Benghazi is proof enough with out the e-mails. I can not imagine how anyone could vote for her..
    We build fast race cars,,not race cars fast!

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    • old fan
      Banned
      • Jan 2016
      • 4191

      #77
      can't you feel the Bern

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      • mudslinger47
        Banned
        • May 2007
        • 3452

        #78
        Originally posted by backspace View Post
        There is no reason why Clinton is not in jail... Benghazi is proof enough with out the e-mails. I can not imagine how anyone could vote for her..

        I agree with you, I find that more offensive the Hitlary still on the streets...

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        • mudslinger47
          Banned
          • May 2007
          • 3452

          #79
          Originally posted by kidrock View Post
          Mud, I don't go around and even try to count or keep track the number of the lies from both sides so, no I can't site any of them for you off hand because, I have had no interest in doing so.

          Candidates say what the voters what to hear, why do you think Trump is doing so good because, he's saying what the voters what to hear. I just hope if he gets elected he will be able to half of what he says he will do. I have to admit I thought there was no way the establishment was going to let him become their nominee but, it looks like I could be wrong but, their not finished just yet but, it does like the boat is starting to sink.
          I have zero doubt that Trump can and would be able to do what he says he wants to do, whether or not he'll get a chot at it I don't know.... getting Mexico to build the wall is a piece of cake.... first, they already have one at their southern border, did you know that? Did you know that American dollars is the largest cash crop in Mexico? That's dollars being mailed home to family members by their working relatives in the USA.... Do you think Mexico is willing to take a chance losing that? Hence, they build a wall, all the Donald has to do is allow the Mexican President to save a little face and its a done deal....The Donald could do an Executive Order on the Muzzy immigration and he would be heralded by the masses for looking out for Americans, and you know that for sure.. and getting the Illegals out of the USA, piece of cake, they have to eat and have housing, take away every social program for them and make it impossible for any companies to hire them, by way of fine or imprisonment , which ever it takes and they( the illegals) go home... its already happening in Cali, there aren't any jobs so they're heading back to Mexico in droves...

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          • kidrock
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 16406

            #80
            Originally posted by backspace View Post
            There is no reason why Clinton is not in jail... Benghazi is proof enough with out the e-mails. I can not imagine how anyone could vote for her..
            I agree, this administration lied about Benghazi to protect Obamas reelection.

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            • kidrock
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 16406

              #81
              Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
              I have zero doubt that Trump can and would be able to do what he says he wants to do, whether or not he'll get a chot at it I don't know.... getting Mexico to build the wall is a piece of cake.... first, they already have one at their southern border, did you know that? Did you know that American dollars is the largest cash crop in Mexico? That's dollars being mailed home to family members by their working relatives in the USA.... Do you think Mexico is willing to take a chance losing that? Hence, they build a wall, all the Donald has to do is allow the Mexican President to save a little face and its a done deal....The Donald could do an Executive Order on the Muzzy immigration and he would be heralded by the masses for looking out for Americans, and you know that for sure.. and getting the Illegals out of the USA, piece of cake, they have to eat and have housing, take away every social program for them and make it impossible for any companies to hire them, by way of fine or imprisonment , which ever it takes and they( the illegals) go home... its already happening in Cali, there aren't any jobs so they're heading back to Mexico in droves...
              I doubt very much the Donald will be able to do everything he says he's going to do but, if he gets in I hope he can do some of what he wants to do.

              yeah it's to bad this administration and past ones did not enforce the laws we have on the books now on immigration.

              I hope can can also reform welfare so, those getting benefits that are capable of working either get off welfare or have to work for it.

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              • mudslinger47
                Banned
                • May 2007
                • 3452

                #82
                The welfare deal is going to be a states issue...feds supply money but let the states pretty much run it..

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                • Clayton_Wetter
                  Banned
                  • May 2007
                  • 16671

                  #83
                  1. I voted Democratic because I love the fact that I can now marry whatever I want. I now may marry my Labrador.

                  2. I voted Democratic because I believe oil companies’ profits of 4 percent on a gallon of gas are obscene but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15 percent isn’t.

                  3. I voted Democratic because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.

                  4. I voted Democratic because freedom of speech is fine as long as I agree with what is said and nobody else is offended by it.

                  5. I voted Democratic because I’m way too irresponsible to own a gun and I know that my local police are all I need to protect me from murderers and thieves.

                  6. I voted Democratic because I believe that people who can’t tell us if it will rain on Friday can tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in 10 years if I don’t start driving a Prius.

                  7. I voted Democratic because I’m not concerned about millions of babies being aborted so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.

                  8. I voted Democratic because I think illegal aliens have a right to free health care, education and Social Security benefits, and we should take away the Social Security from those who paid into it.

                  9. I voted Democratic because I believe that businesses should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as the Democrats see fit.

                  10. I voted Democratic because I believe liberal judges need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would never get their agendas past the voters.

                  11. I voted Democratic because I think that it’s better to pay billions for their oil to people who hate us but not drill our own because it might upset some endangered beetle, spotted owl, gopher or fish.

                  12. I voted Democratic because my head is so firmly misplaced toward the south end of my body, it’s unlikely that I’ll ever have another point of view.

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                  • Clayton_Wetter
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                    • May 2007
                    • 16671

                    #84
                    Sounds like the real tin foil hat people to me!!!

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                    • mudslinger47
                      Banned
                      • May 2007
                      • 3452

                      #85
                      Hey Clayton, were you on RS or another site with a different name? Used to misspell everything on purpose... nothing obnoxious, just wondering...

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                      • ss12
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 3730

                        #86
                        1. You are a bigot

                        It's true that not all Republicans are bigots. But if you ARE a bigot, the Republican party will be much more your group than the Democratic party. Remember that there are lots of ways to be a bigot: You could be a racist, a homophobe, an Islamophobe, or lots of other things.

                        2. You like eating, drinking and breathing poison.

                        Many Republicans are calling for or voting for shrinking or eliminating agencies that protect us against poison. They seem to think that the corporations will do the right thing, without any pressure from the government. Uh huh. Read The Jungle. Look at the way Monsanto is hiding facts about Round Up. Look at food safety and outbreaks of E. Coli.

                        Corporations exist to make money. They will do so any way they can. The government needs to stop them from doing so in ways that hurt people.

                        3. You think the rich don't have enough money

                        The idea that giving more money to rich people (via tax breaks) will help poor people is nonsensical and has been shown wrong time and again in history. Huge tax breaks for the rich (a la George Bush) don't work.

                        4. You don't support our veterans

                        The Iraq and Afghanistan Veteran's Association (IAVA) rates every member of congress on how well they support our veterans. In the Senate, 9 people got A or A+: All were Democrats. 30 got D or F: 29 Republicans and one Democrat. More on this

                        5. You like big deficits

                        Since the end of WW II the ratio of debt to GDP for the nation has gone down in 9 administrations (3 Republican and 6 Democratic) and up in 7 administrations (6 Republican and 1 Democratic). The largest increases by this measure were GW Bush's 2nd term; GHW Bush, and Reagan's first term. The largest decreases were the three terms right after the end of WWII (Truman and Eisenhower). The last decrease under a Republican was in Eisenhower's 2nd term

                        source

                        6. You don't believe in free speech.

                        The American Civil Liberties Union is the premier defender of our civil liberties, including the right to free speech. That's free speech for EVERYONE; from Nazis to Marxists to Fred Phelps to anyone else. They rate politicians, including governors, senators and representatives. 12 people got a 100 rating: All were Democrats. 65 people got a score of less than 10: All were Republicans. Only 6 Democrats got a score under 50 (Joe Donnelly, Michael Ross, Collin Peterson, Joseph Shuler, Mark Critz and David Boren). Only 2 Republicans got scores over 50 (Olympia Snowe and Mark Kirk) Full list

                        7. You like big government

                        The Republicans like to claim they are against big government. It's a lie. They only object when government helps people. But they are supporters of the Patriot Act; they want the government to say who you can marry; they want the government to forbid abortion; they want the government to be able to spy on you without restraint. Unfortunately, many Democrats agree with them on some of these, but to find opposition to these big government ideas, you have to look to the Democrats.

                        8. You want government to hurt people, but not help them

                        This is really just a summation of some other points.

                        9. You are greedy, short sighted and rich

                        You really have to be all three for this to work.

                        If you're rich but not short-sighted, you know that, in the long run, when there is huge income inequality, it leads to things like stock market crashes and revolution, and everyone loses. In a revolution, it is often the rich who lose most.

                        If you're rich but not greedy, you recognize that helping others is a good thing, and that the government assuring that people have a safety net is a good thing as well.

                        10. You like torture

                        The Democrats don't exactly shine here, but the Republicans are much worse. It was, after all, (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) Cheney who bragged in his memoir about being a war criminal. It was Don Rumsfeld who opined that a problem in Abu Ghraib was that they weren't torturing prisoners enough. And it is mostly Democrats who have objected to torture.

                        Torture is wrong. It's also stupid. It doesn't work. People who are tortured will say ANYTHING (true or not) that they thing their torturers want to hear.
                        Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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                        • ss12
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 3730

                          #87
                          10 reason why millenialls aren't voting Republicans

                          Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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                          • old fan
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2016
                            • 4191

                            #88
                            a bigot really explain 2 Hispanics and a black guy running for prez young ones at that meanwhile on the democratic side you have old foggies one about ready to wear a orange jump suit and you like living ine past don't you ss12

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                            • skids
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 1003

                              #89
                              Originally posted by ss12 View Post
                              1. You are a bigot

                              It's true that not all Republicans are bigots. But if you ARE a bigot, the Republican party will be much more your group than the Democratic party. Remember that there are lots of ways to be a bigot: You could be a racist, a homophobe, an Islamophobe, or lots of other things.
                              How is not wanting to change the very definition of marriage being bigoted? If I believe 2 + 2 = 4 and you tell me it's 5.... am I a bigot?

                              2. You like eating, drinking and breathing poison.

                              Many Republicans are calling for or voting for shrinking or eliminating agencies that protect us against poison. They seem to think that the corporations will do the right thing, without any pressure from the government. Uh huh. Read The Jungle. Look at the way Monsanto is hiding facts about Round Up. Look at food safety and outbreaks of E. Coli.

                              Corporations exist to make money. They will do so any way they can. The government needs to stop them from doing so in ways that hurt people.
                              You did not once address the point of the gas tax being higher than the oil company profit. Nice deflecting.

                              3. You think the rich don't have enough money

                              The idea that giving more money to rich people (via tax breaks) will help poor people is nonsensical and has been shown wrong time and again in history. Huge tax breaks for the rich (a la George Bush) don't work.
                              And you think the rich have too much.

                              Why is it anyone's (much less government's) business how much money I (or anyone else) have?

                              Show me one instance that making the "rich" "less rich" has helped any poor person in the long run?? The government is not there to pick winners and losers. Can you show me anywhere in the Constitution where it says people can only make a certain amount of money? Can you show me where it addresses income inequality?

                              4. You don't support our veterans

                              The Iraq and Afghanistan Veteran's Association (IAVA) rates every member of congress on how well they support our veterans. In the Senate, 9 people got A or A+: All were Democrats. 30 got D or F: 29 Republicans and one Democrat. More on this
                              Who had the "VA scandal" where people were dying on waiting lists?

                              5. You like big deficits

                              Since the end of WW II the ratio of debt to GDP for the nation has gone down in 9 administrations (3 Republican and 6 Democratic) and up in 7 administrations (6 Republican and 1 Democratic). The largest increases by this measure were GW Bush's 2nd term; GHW Bush, and Reagan's first term. The largest decreases were the three terms right after the end of WWII (Truman and Eisenhower). The last decrease under a Republican was in Eisenhower's 2nd term

                              source
                              I won't defend Bush because I think his economic policies stunk.

                              Reagan, however, had a hugely gutted military (thanks Carter) to rebuild to fight the Soviet Union during the cold war. Which he did masterfully. Had he not had to rebuild our defenses, the huge boost to the economy his policies created would have been much more prevalent.

                              If you're going to have deficits, you may as well have a thriving economy to show for it. He did.

                              6. You don't believe in free speech.

                              The American Civil Liberties Union is the premier defender of our civil liberties, including the right to free speech. That's free speech for EVERYONE; from Nazis to Marxists to Fred Phelps to anyone else. They rate politicians, including governors, senators and representatives. 12 people got a 100 rating: All were Democrats. 65 people got a score of less than 10: All were Republicans. Only 6 Democrats got a score under 50 (Joe Donnelly, Michael Ross, Collin Peterson, Joseph Shuler, Mark Critz and David Boren). Only 2 Republicans got scores over 50 (Olympia Snowe and Mark Kirk) Full list
                              The very fact that you would give any credit to the ACLU speaks volumes. Do I need to provide a link to the absolutely ridiculous stances they have taken?? While on the surface their mission seems worthy, the way they go about it and what they choose to defend is usually less than impressive.

                              Why don't they defend the civil liberties of the unborn children???

                              7. You like big government

                              The Republicans like to claim they are against big government. It's a lie. They only object when government helps people. But they are supporters of the Patriot Act; they want the government to say who you can marry; they want the government to forbid abortion; they want the government to be able to spy on you without restraint. Unfortunately, many Democrats agree with them on some of these, but to find opposition to these big government ideas, you have to look to the Democrats.
                              No, we see the difference between government "helping" people with "welfare" and them ENABLING and creating MORE dependence on government. A safety net is fine....as long as it's not allowed to turn into a hammock!!

                              8. You want government to hurt people, but not help them

                              This is really just a summation of some other points.
                              See above "safety net" statement.

                              9. You are greedy, short sighted and rich

                              You really have to be all three for this to work.

                              If you're rich but not short-sighted, you know that, in the long run, when there is huge income inequality, it leads to things like stock market crashes and revolution, and everyone loses. In a revolution, it is often the rich who lose most.

                              If you're rich but not greedy, you recognize that helping others is a good thing, and that the government assuring that people have a safety net is a good thing as well.
                              If I'm rich and not greedy I can and SHOULD be allowed spend my money any way I see fit. Actually, regardless of what I am I should be allowed to spend MY money the way I see fit. Please tell me why the government should be deciding who makes too much money?

                              I agree with Carson. Get rid of ALL loop holes and deductions and have a FLAT tax. Would you have an issue with that SS????

                              10. You like torture

                              The Democrats don't exactly shine here, but the Republicans are much worse. It was, after all, (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) Cheney who bragged in his memoir about being a war criminal. It was Don Rumsfeld who opined that a problem in Abu Ghraib was that they weren't torturing prisoners enough. And it is mostly Democrats who have objected to torture.

                              Torture is wrong. It's also stupid. It doesn't work. People who are tortured will say ANYTHING (true or not) that they thing their torturers want to hear.
                              We may not need to torture, but we sure as hell don't need to build them soccer fields and feed them like kings either.

                              SS12, I am particularly interested in what you think of a flat tax while eliminating the loop holes and deductions. Please respond to that.
                              Last edited by skids; 02-09-2016, 10:28 AM.

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                              • Clayton_Wetter
                                Banned
                                • May 2007
                                • 16671

                                #90
                                Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
                                Hey Clayton, were you on RS or another site with a different name? Used to misspell everything on purpose... nothing obnoxious, just wondering...
                                What's RS? But no it wasn't me.

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