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  • old fan
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    • Jan 2016
    • 4191

    #31
    Originally posted by TS FAN View Post
    Never in my lifetime, did I think I would hear the leader of the free world not be aware of is going on in his administration, including those who work for him. Time and again, the leader has said that he has learned something of vital importance in the News. THE NEWS? Seriously??? And the sheep spin away on his behalf.IRS scandalVets adm. ScandalGov. computer system for Health CareTerrorist attack. Underwear bomberMishandling of Emails on personal server.This past weekend, "First I heard about it was on the news"
    can you say empty suit

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    • mudslinger47
      Banned
      • May 2007
      • 3452

      #32
      Originally posted by kidrock View Post
      I understand what your saying. I'm not going to blame anyone for voting to go to war from what they were told.
      But isn't that exactly what your doing?

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      • mudslinger47
        Banned
        • May 2007
        • 3452

        #33
        Originally posted by old fan View Post
        can you say empty suit
        And that might be an over statement....empty pair of jeans....or golf shoes or...

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        • kidrock
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 16407

          #34
          Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
          But isn't that exactly what your doing?
          No what I'm saying is the Bush administration knew it's a lie but, told them anyway. Had they told them the truth they never would have voted for it but, the war hogs wanted to go,to war with Saddam. I guess you guys can't agree to disagree on this one. Must not want your side to look bad because you never make no mistake ever. I get it.

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          • old fan
            Banned
            • Jan 2016
            • 4191

            #35
            What about the not so secret ISSIL camps that are set up here in the USA under Obama please explain that one

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            • CIRF
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 8122

              #36
              Originally posted by kidrock View Post
              Politician do these things for mostly political reasons. I'm not sure where the president no matter who it is is obligated to visit any of them but, I would have figured he would have visited the Steinle family since he was pushing immigration. Like I said I feel bad for the Steinle family because this should have never have happened.

              As far as giving you creditable sources on the Iraq war you have to be kidding right. No matter what sources I site you guys will discredit like always so, no I won't be doing that. Remeber your guys source is the only source that matters.
              I have watch ss12 give sources on some of the things he's talking about and always well that's not credible source. So won't be doing that anymore. Just not worth my time. Like I said we will have to agree to disagree and move on.
              That's not true in my case, Kid, and I think you know that, too. I never had any particular affinity for Bush but I cannot believe he had a disregard for lives and revenue or held malicious intent when he sent the country to war. You obviously do believe that, and that's a pretty serious charge to make with nothing more than a hunch and a strong dislike of Bush.

              The bottom line on the Steinly affair is this. I DO NOT believe G.W. Bush would been silent following the scum bag DHS secretary's human garbage response to a legitimate question. I also do not believe he would have failed to contact the family because of political spite, even if the politics of the situation had been diametrically opposed to his beliefs. He may not have been a great President but he is a fair and compassionate man.

              Can you say the same for hussein? Not with a straight face and clear conscience you can't!

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              • mudslinger47
                Banned
                • May 2007
                • 3452

                #37
                Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                No what I'm saying is the Bush administration knew it's a lie but, told them anyway. Had they told them the truth they never would have voted for it but, the war hogs wanted to go,to war with Saddam. I guess you guys can't agree to disagree on this one. Must not want your side to look bad because you never make no mistake ever. I get it.
                No we can't, because that wasn't the way it was... "W" and the Senate and Congressional leaders were briefed at the same time.... Diane Feinstein explained this to the tea when you Democrats first started throwing stones....she herself said it was a BS charge.... Domestically "W" sucked for the most part, but his world view was spot on!!

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                • skids
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 1003

                  #38
                  Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                  now that I can't dispute. That is very possible.
                  So, how can you say this is very possible, yet still call Bush a liar???

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                  • TS FAN
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 4236

                    #39
                    Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                    No what I'm saying is the Bush administration knew it's a lie but, told them anyway. Had they told them the truth they never would have voted for it but, the war hogs wanted to go,to war with Saddam. I guess you guys can't agree to disagree on this one. Must not want your side to look bad because you never make no mistake ever. I get it.
                    Kid, there is absolutely no proof on your Bush accusations. Not a hint of proof. If you want to debate whether we should have gone to war, then debate it. However you did not follow the trail of the Sadam ploy. He played a game of chicken with Bush and lost. He sent the weapons to Syria and could have prevented the attack. He was warned with our battleships at his door to allow us to inspect. Remember that???? Warned right before the attack. He could have let us in to inspect and there would not have been a conflict. But no, he couldn't stand to look weak in the eyes of the people in the Country and I guess he thought he could bluff us down. BTW, The Clinton administration knew he had weapons. The Bush lied nonsense, has no merit.

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                    • Clayton_Wetter
                      Banned
                      • May 2007
                      • 16671

                      #40
                      Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
                      No we can't, because that wasn't the way it was... "W" and the Senate and Congressional leaders were briefed at the same time.... Diane Feinstein explained this to the tea when you Democrats first started throwing stones....she herself said it was a BS charge.... Domestically "W" sucked for the most part, but his world view was spot on!!
                      What kidrock does not point out when he says everything is done for political reasons is, that the Democrats successfully ran a smear campaign on the Republicans and Bush, using the war as their tool. And they always find a way of misdirecting all of the blame by creating lies, distorting the truth, omitting the truth, and the blame is the tool that gets it done for them. The Democrat party can not win on it's own merits anymore since they have gone total socialist and Communist. They must try to control the narrative and misdirect blame on any issue they can, They also turn everything into a political issue on purpose.

                      Many people are so confused that some of them don't even know what to believe or not to believe anymore. And many make uneducated and foolish choices on who and what to believe. Thus the Democrat party continues to survive, but they know that they must recruit new voters (illegal aliens and refugees) to replenish their dying base.

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                      • kidrock
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 16407

                        #41
                        Originally posted by TS FAN View Post
                        Kid, there is absolutely no proof on your Bush accusations. Not a hint of proof. If you want to debate whether we should have gone to war, then debate it. However you did not follow the trail of the Sadam ploy. He played a game of chicken with Bush and lost. He sent the weapons to Syria and could have prevented the attack. He was warned with our battleships at his door to allow us to inspect. Remember that???? Warned right before the attack. He could have let us in to inspect and there would not have been a conflict. But no, he couldn't stand to look weak in the eyes of the people in the Country and I guess he thought he could bluff us down. BTW, The Clinton administration knew he had weapons. The Bush lied nonsense, has no merit.
                        All sounds good but it was a big fat lie. Yes I could put up a few sources on here but, I already know what will happen. So if he sent the weapons to Syria why did we go to war with him. They were watching that country like a hawk and don't you think they would have spotted them moving WMD's to Syria. It was a big fat lie that the war hogs sold congress and the American public.

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                        • Clayton_Wetter
                          Banned
                          • May 2007
                          • 16671

                          #42
                          Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                          All sounds good but it was a big fat lie. Yes I could put up a few sources on here but, I already know what will happen. So if he sent the weapons to Syria why did we go to war with him. They were watching that country like a hawk and don't you think they would have spotted them moving WMD's to Syria. It was a big fat lie that the war hogs sold congress and the American public.
                          It was not no big fat lie.

                          What kidrock does not point out when he says everything is done for political reasons is, that the Democrats successfully ran a smear campaign on the Republicans and Bush, using the war as their tool. And they always find a way of misdirecting all of the blame by creating lies, distorting the truth, omitting the truth, and the blame is the tool that gets it done for them. The Democrat party can not win on it's own merits anymore since they have gone total socialist and Communist. They must try to control the narrative and misdirect blame on any issue they can, They also turn everything into a political issue on purpose.

                          Many people are so confused that some of them don't even know what to believe or not to believe anymore. And many make uneducated and foolish choices on who and what to believe. Thus the Democrat party continues to survive, but they know that they must recruit new voters (illegal aliens and refugees) to replenish their dying base.

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