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here if 500 miles they should race 500 miles not be under caution for 125 miles and called a 500 mile race and every race must end under green
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CIRF, what the heck are they doing at Indy for Qualifing this year?Comment
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It's been this way for a few years now, Kid. I DON'T LIKE IT.
Indianapolis 500 qualifying was an event in and of itself. Smokey Yunick wrote in his autobiography that Indy 500 qualifying was incredibly gut wrenching and heart breaking, and at the same time could be the most exhilarating and gratifying process in which he'd ever participated in with regards to racing.
I guess the powers that be thought it would jazz it up a bit. My biggest concern is that a mandatory second round of qualifying puts teams in a position of distinct potential for destruction of equipment and driver injury.
Now, the upside for the competitors is that 2nd through 9th fastest teams that might have missed their prime setup or the driver erred slightly in his 10 mile qualification run have an opportunity to correct those deficiencies and could capture the pole position or the front row. The 10th through 33rd fast qualifiers have an opportunity to better their starting positions. But is the risk worth the potential gain, especially if a team is solidly in the show?
The down side is the fastest team on Saturday could get bumped all the way to 9th from what used to be a pole run.
The pole for the Indy 500 pays over $100,000 all by itself and when you add in the notoriety that comes with an Indy 500 pole the incentive to rise car and driver with a second round is real and present. Mark my words, if there ever is a driver seriously injured or worse there will be a whole bunch of second guessing in regards to the added qualifying gimmicks.
Since there aren't 40 or 45 cars vying for the 33 starting positions anymore the drama of bump day is pretty much gone. Usually only 34 or 35 cars are entered these days.
This second round of qualifying is half baked NASCAR style gimmick that The Greatest Spectacle In Racing doesn't need in my humble opinion.
At least they don't do this lame brained group qualifying gimmick like NASCAR and F1 does. Thank God for that!!Last edited by CIRF; 05-22-2016, 12:21 PM.Comment
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So Indy is the land of gimmicks.... guess I'll never know.... wouldn't waste my time...Comment
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next weekend would rather go to Springfield for the bikes doubt I will but its on the bucket listComment
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Yea, you know. And now we here all know, too. The Greatest Spectacle In Racing is important enough to you that you readily participate in a thread that is devoted exclusively to great racing that you claim to believe to be a waste of time. Ya' got your hypocrite goin' on big time right here for all to see, muddy ol' buddy. LOLOL!!Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
Oh, did ya' see where the Indy 500 is sold out of reserve seating and the infield Snake Pit area is sold out, as well? I'll bet you knew that! LOL!! When was the last time NASCAR sold out a venue of 300,000? He!!, when was the last time the gimmick dreamers sold out anywhere?!
I'll compare stupid gimmick for stupid gimmick any day. The Indy 500 qualifying gimmick is minor as compared to the silly group knock out qualifying used in gimmickland.........oops, I mean NASCARland. Now that's some silly $hit right there. And thank God that's where it ends.
No locked in teams.
No lucky dog or wave around (now there's some seriously silly $hit right there!).
No GWC.
No making up rules that allow for a driver to not compete in 1/3 of the season and still be champion of the WHOLE season.
Help me out muddy ol' buddy, am I missing anything?!! LOL!!Comment
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I had no idea. I haven't been paying attention to qualifying for several years now. Not since the days of the bump on Sunday's. Go back to single day qualifying if they don't have enough cars for bump day.Originally posted by CIRF View Post
Same as NASCAR I had no idea they were doing knockout qualifying. What is that anyway? NASCAR needs to go to top 43 or however many cars they start now and if you are not one of the fastest top 43 you go home.Comment
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pretty good CIRF except one thing all races should finish under green no questions asked and by the way CIRF Logano won 1 million dollars last night for the all star raceComment
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They've already cut it back to one weekend from two. I think they (the Hulman-George family) realized the diminishing need for 2 weekend of qualifying, even 2 days of qualifying. They wanted to make it necessary for 2 days of qualifying regardless of the number of cars, thus the complete round 2 on Sunday.
Kid, they're not doing knockout qualifying. They just do an official qualifying run on Saturday and that determines the order they qualify on Sunday. The fastest 9 from Saturday are the only cars eligible to win the pole on Sunday. So, if a car is 6th fast on Saturday that car could conceivably win the pole on Sunday. The same goes for all cars in the fastest 9 of Saturday's qualifying runs. Fast time on Saturday obviously can't improve it's starting position but they can drop in the order but only as low as 9th. Positions 10 through 33 can improve their starting positions, but whether the car is 10th quickest or 33rd quickest on Saturday those cars can only improve themselves as high as 10th. So the fast time and the 10th fastest time from Saturday cannot improve their starting positions, they only have the possibility to drop in the starting line up. I hope I'm being clear on this and if not I'm sorry.
I'd be nauseous if they went to group knockout qualifying like NASCAR.Comment
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you build a car without testing it wtf http://sports.yahoo.com/news/indycar...9875--irl.htmlComment
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Good read, CIRF.
Got the qualifying on the tube here and, like many older fans, I can recall no matter what, we always had the last qualifying day on the radio if we weren't at the TV. The drama and excitement of Bubble Day was nearly as powerful as the race itself. Naming 25 Indy drivers was pretty easy to do in the 60s thru 80s, now, without the aide of the internet, 5 would be a challenge for me.
I always tune in for Indy. It's just part of my upbringing - long before Monaco and Charlotte bookended it for a classic day of racing TV entertainment. I must admit I have little love for the car designs today and while 230.whatever MPHs is impressive, I feel like it's taken some of the racing on-track away from the show.
I was glad to read your statistical input on Indy is selling massive tickets. Having been to Indy once, I can better understand why. Really, Indy should be experienced live at least once.
I don't have much in the way of suggestions to what could make this qualifying more interesting but I do feel there should be some type of preservation runs for the top 10 of yesterday to uphold their positions for the big show. Bubble Day just isn't the same without the bubble
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