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  • CIRF
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 8122

    #31
    Originally posted by ClampedUp View Post
    People on here just love to throw Bloomquist's past out there every chance they get so lets keep it equal opportunity here at 4m..........

    Dignity & Class?? http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories...l#.VzudKpErKM8
    No issue to be taken by me on that deal. I have never thought Hendrick should have been pardoned. The pardon was a last minute clinton move that was probably bought and paid for by Hendrick. IIRC clinton supposedly pardoned Hendrick due to the fact that he was diagnosed and was being treated for leukemia. Never did hear how much Hendrick ended up having to pay out in damages from law suits filed by Honda dealers across the country but hopefully is was a bunch.

    I will only say this in regards to Hendrick's racing operation. But for one glaring exception (pee wee jr.) HMS has, and continues to employ some of the most decent people to drive his cars. Geoff Bodine was a little rough around the edges and Tim Richmond liked a bit too much variety in his women and sadly he paid for it with his life. But for the most part he's had very good people driving his cars.

    Character, manners, class and dignity are all virtues to be admired, especially these days!
    Last edited by CIRF; 05-17-2016, 06:22 PM.

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    • old fan
      Banned
      • Jan 2016
      • 4191

      #32
      Originally posted by kidrock View Post
      yeah but it's made it interesting the last couple of years. At least now it's coming down to the last day with 4 guys with a chance to win it but, you wouldn't know because you don't watch it. How was the race Sunday?
      but the race for the chase is all fabricated me I won't watch it till it means something , and they wonder why the crowds are down

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      • kidrock
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 16407

        #33
        Originally posted by old fan View Post
        but the race for the chase is all fabricated me I won't watch it till it means something , and they wonder why the crowds are down
        I guess I will never understand the overrated championships. Has nothing to do the racing on the track. Oh wait yes it does because sometimes they only race for points. F--k that I want to see them racing every lap not just points racing.

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        • mudslinger47
          Banned
          • May 2007
          • 3452

          #34
          Originally posted by TS FAN View Post
          Hmm, disagree. Harvick is every bit the driver Labonte was. Do not let your personal feelings cloud your judgement. LOL
          What you think of him as a person, has nothing to do with how good he is.
          Harvick could drive rings around either Labonte, just the way it is... Harvick is, however a bit of a jerk to his crew, BUT, its only because he wants them to perform up to the Gibb's standard... now really to much to ask.... personally, I don't care for Harvick, but he is a heck of a driver... any driver would be pissed if their crew lost them roughly 15 positions on pit road...

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          • drano
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 1339

            #35
            You know I can see a driver getting upset over his crew losing him positions on the track but you never see the crew yelling at the driver for making mistakes about making bone head moves on the track.

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            • CIRF
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 8122

              #36
              Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
              Harvick could drive rings around either Labonte, just the way it is... Harvick is, however a bit of a jerk to his crew, BUT, its only because he wants them to perform up to the Gibb's standard... now really to much to ask.... personally, I don't care for Harvick, but he is a heck of a driver... any driver would be pissed if their crew lost them roughly 15 positions on pit road...
              Drive rings around either Labonte? Prove it. Bobby has just as many championships as Harvick and Terry has twice as many and they won them when there were not gimmicks involved, unlike Harvick. Just you thinkin' it's true don't necessarily make it true. Besides that Montoya backed him down without batting an eye at Watkins Glen a few years ago. Then he does an interview in the garage area and says he's gonna' kick Montoya's ass. Well mr. forehead, you just had your chance and you flatly declined to throw down. Tough guy? Only when he has his crew/defenders nearby! LOL.
              Originally posted by drano View Post
              You know I can see a driver getting upset over his crew losing him positions on the track but you never see the crew yelling at the driver for making mistakes about making bone head moves on the track.
              You make a very good point drano.

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              • old fan
                Banned
                • Jan 2016
                • 4191

                #37
                are they there to race or fight plus you can't prove Labonte is better than Harvick different times in racing and different rules you should know that

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                • drano
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 1339

                  #38
                  You may not be able to prove Labonte is better than Harvick but you can bet your last dollar he is just as good.

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                  • old fan
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2016
                    • 4191

                    #39
                    why certainly

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                    • mudslinger47
                      Banned
                      • May 2007
                      • 3452

                      #40
                      Drive rings around either Labonte? Prove it. Bobby has just as many championships as Harvick and Terry has twice as many and they won them when there were not gimmicks involved, unlike Harvick. Just you thinkin' it's true don't necessarily make it true. Besides that Montoya backed him down without batting an eye at Watkins Glen a few years ago. Then he does an interview in the garage area and says he's gonna' kick Montoya's ass. Well mr. forehead, you just had your chance and you flatly declined to throw down. Tough guy? Only when he has his crew/defenders nearby! LOL.



                      Because I have seen Harvick race both Labonte's and he beat them....LOL yourself....

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                      • old fan
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2016
                        • 4191

                        #41
                        Montoya's best quality in NASCAR was fighting it certainly not winning races but then he goes back over to INDY cars and wins just saying lol

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                        • CIRF
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 8122

                          #42
                          Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
                          Drive rings around either Labonte? Prove it. Bobby has just as many championships as Harvick and Terry has twice as many and they won them when there were not gimmicks involved, unlike Harvick. Just you thinkin' it's true don't necessarily make it true. Besides that Montoya backed him down without batting an eye at Watkins Glen a few years ago. Then he does an interview in the garage area and says he's gonna' kick Montoya's ass. Well mr. forehead, you just had your chance and you flatly declined to throw down. Tough guy? Only when he has his crew/defenders nearby! LOL.



                          Because I have seen Harvick race both Labonte's and he beat them....LOL yourself....
                          Prove it. Simple as that.

                          You watch gimmicks and believe they're great. Sorry, we can't trust the arbitrary judgement of someone who thinks gimmicks are great! LOL!

                          Originally posted by old fan View Post
                          Montoya's best quality in NASCAR was fighting it certainly not winning races but then he goes back over to INDY cars and wins just saying lol
                          Montoya didn't have to throw a punch to whip ol' tough guy Harvick into submission. Body language told the whole story of that deal. And the story was Harvick didn't want anything to do with Montoya when he had the chance. Then he does his gasbag routine in the garage area about how he is going to kick Montoya's ass. He just had his chance but thought better of it.

                          Steve Kinser didn't win driving a Cup car but he's still considered one of the best race car drivers of all time.

                          Try a new angle litey.

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                          • A ron
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 294

                            #43
                            I had no idea any of this was going on (probably because I've pretty much quit watching), but all you people who have said the 5 hasn't done crap since Terry Labonte: How about Mark Martin coming out of retirement to win several races and end up finishing 2nd to JJ in 2009? Or Kyle Busch winning several races in it? My opinion: Kahne hasn't done much in any ride he's had.

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                            • CIRF
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 8122

                              #44
                              Originally posted by A ron View Post
                              I had no idea any of this was going on (probably because I've pretty much quit watching), but all you people who have said the 5 hasn't done crap since Terry Labonte: How about Mark Martin coming out of retirement to win several races and end up finishing 2nd to JJ in 2009? Or Kyle Busch winning several races in it? My opinion: Kahne hasn't done much in any ride he's had.
                              Thanks for the wake-up call, A ron.

                              I had completely forgotten about Martin's '09 near championship run in the #5 car. 4 of Mark Martins 5 wins driving the #5 car came in '09. Terry had the most wins in the Hendrick #5 with 12 and Geoff Bodine was second with 7 victories. Casey Kahne has 5 wins in the #5 and Busch had 4.

                              We were really pulling for Martin to win the '09 championship, especially after he'd got screwed out of the championship by NASCAR and arnhead back in 1990.

                              Martins great season in '09 was overshadowed by all the hype surrounding Jimmie Johnson winning his 4th consecutive Cup Championship, something that had never been done before in the history of NASCAR Grand National/Cup competition.

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                              • ClampedUp
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 1131

                                #45
                                From www.jayski.com via Kevin Harvick's twitter.....

                                Harvick [AGAIN] debunks rumor of move to Hendrick: Stewart-Haas Racing {#'s 4,10,14,41] announced that it would switch to Ford vehicles next year, since then one of its top drivers has been rumored to be jumping ship. But the sources and reports are bogus according to #4-Kevin Harvick. Harvick took to Twitter Tuesday to refute another report that he would be moving to Hendrick Motorsports in 2017. "Bunch of people making [expletive] up," Harvick tweeted. Harvick also denied a similar report(s) in February (and April and March)(UPI) and see Harvick's Twitter for more.(5-18-2018)

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