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  • kidrock
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 16433

    #106
    Originally posted by formercrewguy View Post
    Bill Clinton said Iraq had WMD's when he was still President. Did yall forget that?
    Yes that's because at that time they did but, were talking about before the invasion of Iraq.

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    • kidrock
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 16433

      #107
      I could only provide you info that you could find as well and if I did all I would here is that's not creditable sources or site so, I will not waste my time in doing so. There are reports out there.

      Yes did Saddam did have Wmd's and used them on his own people and in the war with Iran but, were talking about the time before we invaded Iraq. I'm kind of curious if anyone remembers Joesph Wilson and Valire Plame Wilson. You know the CIA agaent that was outed by the Bush Administration in which Scooter Liby was the escapegoat and was convicted and then later Pardoned by Bush.
      Seven years after top officials in the Bush administration turned their world upside down in an attempt to convince the public to support the war in Iraq, Amb. Joseph Wilson and outed CIA agent Valerie Plame said they still have not received an apology from anyone involved.



      The movie “Fair Game“ is hitting U.S. theaters on Nov. 5, based on the real-life story of Plame and Wilson, who were at the heart of the debate over the Iraq war. In 2003, Plame was a covert officer in the CIA’s counter-proliferation division, and Wilson was sent to Africa to investigate the alleged sale of enriched uranium from Niger.

      The Bush administration, of course, ignored his findings and told the American public that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. On July 6, 2003, Wilson penned an explosive op-ed entitled, “What I Didn’t Find in Africa.”

      “Did the Bush administration manipulate intelligence about Saddam Hussein’s weapons programs to justify an invasion of Iraq?” he wrote. “Based on my experience with the administration in the months leading up to the war, I have little choice but to conclude that some of the intelligence related to Iraq’s nuclear weapons program was twisted to exaggerate the Iraqi threat. “

      What ensued was the leaking of Plame’s covert identity — in an effort to discredit Wilson — to journalists including columnist Robert Novak, the conviction of top aide to Vice President Cheney Scooter Libby and prison time for a New York Times journalist. But nothing ever happened to others involved in the leak, including Armitage and Cheney.Seven years after top officials in the Bush administration turned their world upside down in an attempt to convince the public to support the war in Iraq, Amb. Joseph Wilson and outed CIA agent Valerie Plame said they still have not received an apology from anyone involved.

      “No, in a word,” Plame laughed and told The Huffington Post when asked if she or her husband had heard from any Bush officials. She said the closest thing she has received to an apology is when Richard Armitage, the former No. 2 at the State Department, publicly said it was “foolish“ of him to leak Plame’s undercover CIA identity.

      The movie “Fair Game“ is hitting U.S. theaters on Nov. 5, based on the real-life story of Plame and Wilson, who were at the heart of the debate over the Iraq war. In 2003, Plame was a covert officer in the CIA’s counter-proliferation division, and Wilson was sent to Africa to investigate the alleged sale of enriched uranium from Niger.

      The Bush administration, of course, ignored his findings and told the American public that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. On July 6, 2003, Wilson penned an explosive op-ed entitled, “What I Didn’t Find in Africa.”

      “Did the Bush administration manipulate intelligence about Saddam Hussein’s weapons programs to justify an invasion of Iraq?” he wrote. “Based on my experience with the administration in the months leading up to the war, I have little choice but to conclude that some of the intelligence related to Iraq’s nuclear weapons program was twisted to exaggerate the Iraqi threat. “

      What ensued was the leaking of Plame’s covert identity — in an effort to discredit Wilson — to journalists including columnist Robert Novak, the conviction of top aide to Vice President Cheney Scooter Libby and prison time for a New York Times journalist. But nothing ever happened to others involved in the leak, including Armitage and Cheney.

      There's a little background of what happened when Joesph Wilson told the Bush Administartion what he found and they didn't like what he had to say. by the way more people should have been arrested over the outibg of of CIA agent.

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      • skids
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 1003

        #108
        Many contest that Plame was not covert at the time of the "outing". A typical, "let's nail Bush", witch hunt.

        A few points:
        Had not Plame been outed years ago by a Soviet agent?
        Was she not on an administrative, not operational, track at Langley?
        How could she be covert if, in public view, she drove to work each day at Langley?
        What about comments by then CIA spokesman Bill Harlow that Plame never would be given another foreign assignment?
        What about testimony to the FBI that her CIA employment was common knowledge in Washington?
        It had been 5 years since she had been over seas on assignment.
        It was common knowledge among her friends and family that she worked for the CIA.

        Doesn't seem too "covert" to me.

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        • kidrock
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 16433

          #109
          Originally posted by skids View Post
          Many contest that Plame was not covert at the time of the "outing". A typical, "let's nail Bush", witch hunt.

          A few points:
          Had not Plame been outed years ago by a Soviet agent?
          Was she not on an administrative, not operational, track at Langley?
          How could she be covert if, in public view, she drove to work each day at Langley?
          What about comments by then CIA spokesman Bill Harlow that Plame never would be given another foreign assignment?
          What about testimony to the FBI that her CIA employment was common knowledge in Washington?
          It had been 5 years since she had been over seas on assignment.
          It was common knowledge among her friends and family that she worked for the CIA.

          Doesn't seem too "covert" to me.


          Patrick Fitzgerald says otherwise. By the way the real leaker resigned (Richard Armitage) why would he resign if she wasn't a CIA agent at the time.
          Last edited by kidrock; 07-07-2016, 05:10 PM.

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          • mud duck
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 674

            #110
            Kid, see how they defend the crookedness of their own party?? But, hate it when the Dems do it!! It's called a word that starts with an "H"but it slips my mind right now! LOL

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            • old fan
              Banned
              • Jan 2016
              • 4191

              #111
              funny you mention no oil from iraq how does this grab you http://observer.com/2008/06/schumer-...raq-oil-deals/

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              • mudslinger47
                Banned
                • May 2007
                • 3452

                #112
                Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                Yes that's because at that time they did but, were talking about before the invasion of Iraq.
                They were moved out during the delay, they were real, you admit they were real and the entire congress save one senator and 12 congressmen voted to go in... you guys like to blame "W", but every swingin' di@k there was rarin' and ready to kick a little Muzzy Butt...

                Once your in, your in, no turning back....

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                • old fan
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 4191

                  #113
                  And finish the f'n job

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                  • kidrock
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 16433

                    #114
                    Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
                    They were moved out during the delay, they were real, you admit they were real and the entire congress save one senator and 12 congressmen voted to go in... you guys like to blame "W", but every swingin' di@k there was rarin' and ready to kick a little Muzzy Butt...

                    Once your in, your in, no turning back....
                    Yes I have said he had them but, not at the time they were selling it to congress and the American people and yes those in congress on both sides were hell bent on going in. Who wouldn't when they were told the lies they were told.

                    I agree once they invaded there was no leaving and That's where Obama made the mistake bt leaving to early.

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                    • kidrock
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 16433

                      #115
                      Originally posted by mud duck View Post
                      Kid, see how they defend the crookedness of their own party?? But, hate it when the Dems do it!! It's called a word that starts with an "H"but it slips my mind right now! LOL
                      I know it's unreal how no matter what they do it's not wrong and if a republican breaks the law he's a Democrat in disguise lol. Again I guess they are the Perfect Party lol

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                      • kidrock
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 16433

                        #116
                        Originally posted by old fan View Post
                        And finish the f'n job
                        And what would that be. what's your definition of finishing the job.

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                        • old fan
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 4191

                          #117
                          Originally posted by ss12 View Post
                          Clayton what does judge Napolitano think today? Not and Article written back in April. If one of the leading American republican prosecuting attorney(Trey Gowdy) couldn't fine anything to prosecute her for in this 7 million dollar witch hunt. I doubt if anybody else will beable too.
                          the fact is they even have to a witch hunt as you call it should disqualify her

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                          • old fan
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2016
                            • 4191

                            #118
                            Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                            And what would that be. what's your definition of finishing the job.
                            in that case make sure any towel head that is causing harm is dead

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                            • mudslinger47
                              Banned
                              • May 2007
                              • 3452

                              #119
                              Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                              Yes I have said he had them but, not at the time they were selling it to congress and the American people and yes those in congress on both sides were hell bent on going in. Who wouldn't when they were told the lies they were told.

                              I agree once they invaded there was no leaving and That's where Obama made the mistake bt leaving to early.
                              And that wasn't know till they got there, was it? They were the president and congress, not clairivoients.... It was done on the up and up, with out the five or six month delay, the weapons would have been captured.....

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                              • CIRF
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 8122

                                #120
                                Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                                I know it's unreal how no matter what they do it's not wrong and if a republican breaks the law he's a Democrat in disguise lol. Again I guess they are the Perfect Party lol
                                I can't speak for anywhere but here in Illinois, but one thing is for certain, when it comes to chitcago republican politicians there is no disguise involved. When they come out of the cesspool of chitcago they smell just as foul from raw sewage as the democrats. That's why the White House has been filled with that sickening chitcago political sewage odor for the past 7 1/2 years.

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