Without the ladies that were allegedly rape coming forward when the alledged incident happened no one can say for sure one way or another. Guys have been accussed of rape before only to be exonerated.
so, if they were raped to bad they did not have the couarge to come forward at the time so, if he did rape these women he could have been stopped and sent to prison. No one should be above the law even the Clinton's.
I could never defend a rapist if that's what happened but, as far as how the country was going under his leadership we were in good times. Yes I will give the Republicans some credit as well but, Bill was the leader and did end up working with Newt to get chit done.
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You really like to defend rapists a lot?! That's a pretty weak defense unless you have facts.
Do you have some kind of proof he's not a rapist? Let me guess, you personally know the rapist?? Or MSNBC told you he's not a rapist? LOLOL!!!Last edited by CIRF; 07-07-2016, 09:23 AM.
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You really like to throw that R word around a lot? That's a strong statement unless you have facts. Do you have some kind of proof? Let me guess you personally know the accusers?? Or FOX news told you? LolOriginally posted by CIRF View PostI think it's billions, with a b.
Didn't the rapist and his enabler and defender march out of the White House with around a quarter million in furniture and china? They might have made restitution in the amount of $28,000.00. You can take the rapist out of the hills but ya' can't take the hillbilly out of the rapist (and the rapist enabler and defender)! LOL!!
That turned out to be peanuts compared to $153 million (that averages $210,795 per speech) the rapist and the rapist defender and enabler would nail down for 40 to 50 minute speeches since they pillaged the White House. That's not counting what they took under the table. What a country!
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They are elite people though, those Democrats do not have to obey any laws. It is hurting the morals of the people to see such lawless behavior by our government itself. Hillary could get anyway with anything, oops, already has.Originally posted by CIRF View PostI think it's billions, with a b.
Didn't the rapist and his enabler and defender march out of the White House with around a quarter million in furniture and china? They might have made restitution in the amount of $28,000.00. You can take the rapist out of the hills but ya' can't take the hillbilly out of the rapist (and the rapist enabler and defender)! LOL!!
That turned out to be peanuts compared to $153 million (that averages $210,795 per speech) the rapist and the rapist defender and enabler would nail down for 40 to 50 minute speeches since they pillaged the White House. That's not counting what they took under the table. What a country!
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I think it's billions, with a b.
Didn't the rapist and his enabler and defender march out of the White House with around a quarter million in furniture and china? They might have made restitution in the amount of $28,000.00. You can take the rapist out of the hills but ya' can't take the hillbilly out of the rapist (and the rapist enabler and defender)! LOL!!
That turned out to be peanuts compared to $153 million (that averages $210,795 per speech) the rapist and the rapist defender and enabler would nail down for 40 to 50 minute speeches since they pillaged the White House. That's not counting what they took under the table. What a country!
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Hey on a side not, Donnie is formally vetting Bob Corker as his VP. Look into this guys very questionable finances!! I guess if he makes it thru, him and Hillary will have a great debate when it comes to a question on how they got their wealth. Plus, Donnie will be ale to chime in on how he made his millions.
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I don't know Rutherford. In fact I don't know any politicians other than local. I try to stay away from them all. I always felt as if I needed to shower and disinfect myself after merely shaking hands with one of them.
Any political position above county board member requires that the holder of that office to be a highly proficient liar and willing to do pretty much whatever it takes to be elected and re-elected. And if need be that would include crushing someone/anyone like me for whatever reason and enjoying it while it's happening.
Tommy Ewing was the last politician I ever came in contact with. He was the U.S. Representative from our congressional district. He came across as almost sickeningly sweet but when the chips were on the table he really didn't give rats ass about me or my well being, fiscal or otherwise. I can prove that statement.
As far as I'm concerned the burden of proof is on them, one and all, to convince me they aren't a lying crooked scum bag. To date, not one has met the burden.
How's that for cynicism?! LOL!Last edited by CIRF; 07-06-2016, 10:00 AM.
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I was fiercly loyal to some republicans as well. Do you know Dan Rutherford by any chance. Dan and I were friends and always talked to one another. I was supporting Dan for Governor and was going to vote for him until all the bs that came up that was false by the way and he quit has a candidate. Do you know Tom Cross if not he was the minority leader for the house of reps for the republicans. I supported him as well. I support George Ryan as well and his staff were great to me especially Laura Lynn George's wife. Mike Madigans' Secretary is one of the nicest ladies you would ever meet so, I supported more then Just Mike Madigan.Originally posted by CIRF View PostHow many times was the dead daley indicted through all those republican AG's? LOL!!
You're fierce loyalty to mikey is interesting to be sure.
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How many times was the dead daley indicted through all those republican AG's? LOL!!
You're fierce loyalty to mikey is interesting to be sure.
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Well what about all the attorney Generals before her? plenty under the Republican banner but, not one indictment or arrest of Madigan. No people want to make Madigan out to always be the bad guy but, if you listen to what Edgar has to say who by the way is very respected in the political scene he tells it like it is and he respected Madigan and was able to work with him.Originally posted by CIRF View PostIt's very difficult to get the goods on a crooked politician the likes of Mikey just as it was impossible to get the goods on the dead daley. The dead daley wrote the playbook on how to survive and thrive as a crooked chitcago politician and Mikey has memorized it chapter and verse. Mikey's daughter has done due diligence in getting that daley playbook down pat, as well.
Just as the dead daley (and several others) before him, Mikey is very successful in keeping his dirty work on the hands of others in case some scandalous debauchery that could be prosecuted were to surface and the deal goes South.
Your perspective of republican politicians is coming into focus given your vocal loyalty to Mikey. I firmly predict Lisa Madigan's step-daddy will not ever be convicted or even indicted as long she's the Illinois Attorney General and her momma is married to her step-daddy. At least not at the state level!
What do you think? LOL!!
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It's very difficult to get the goods on a crooked politician the likes of Mikey just as it was impossible to get the goods on the dead daley. The dead daley wrote the playbook on how to survive and thrive as a crooked chitcago politician and Mikey has memorized it chapter and verse. Mikey's daughter has done due diligence in getting that daley playbook down pat, as well.Originally posted by kidrock View PostI'm not going to try convience you I have no hatered for the republican party. I agree with republicans on some of their ideas just as I agree with some of the Democrats on their ideas. Working for both sides taught me that. like I said I have lots no friends from my days working at the capitol building on both sides.
Did you find any crooked things Madigan has done that he should be arressted for? I'm sure if he had he would have been arressted by now.
Just as the dead daley (and several others) before him, Mikey is very successful in keeping his dirty work on the hands of others in case some scandalous debauchery that could be prosecuted were to surface and the deal goes South.
Your perspective of republican politicians is coming into focus given your vocal loyalty to Mikey. I firmly predict Lisa Madigan's step-daddy will not ever be convicted or even indicted as long she's the Illinois Attorney General and her momma is married to her step-daddy. At least not at the state level! Lisa's real last name is Murray and Mikey adopted her when she was 18 and she legally changed her name from Murray to Madigan at about the same time. Smell anything yet? She won't answer questions about the whole deal. The smell gets a bit stronger when you peal back the layers of the onion, and a rotten onion to boot! Wonder what her real daddy thinks of all this? LOL!
What do you think? LOL!!Last edited by CIRF; 07-05-2016, 06:06 PM.
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I'm not going to try convience you I have no hatered for the republican party. I agree with republicans on some of their ideas just as I agree with some of the Democrats on their ideas. Working for both sides taught me that. like I said I have lots no friends from my days working at the capitol building on both sides.Originally posted by CIRF View PostHmmmm.. No hatred? Really?
Madigan appears to have the same closed rank protection from the crooked chitcago political machine as the dead mayor daley had. chitcago politics are an anomaly that defies any explanation or reason but is very, very effective. Mainly because the majority of the voting public (both dead and living) in chitcago seems to be complicit and is very happy to be led by some of the crookedest elected officials in the United States, and most likely in the whole world.
hussein was taught his stock in trade in chitcago and he was taught right. hussein may well be the most proficient at using the crooked chitcago design given the fact that nothing relatively dirty has ever rubbed off on him. That reality is in spite of the fact that he was once waist deep in the raw sewage cesspool of chitcago politics.
Where was the rapist enabler born and raised? Ahh yes, sweet home chitcago!
Did you find any crooked things Madigan has done that he should be arressted for? I'm sure if he had he would have been arressted by now.
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Hmmmm.. No hatred? Really?Originally posted by kidrock View PostAnd that's where your wrong. i don't have hatered for the Republican party. I worked for both sides at the capitol and I never not once treated the Republicans any different then I did the Democrats. I have friends on both sides. We have had many many discussions about both parties over the years.
If Madigan is so crooked why hasn't he been brought up on any charges. it's not like others haven't as you well know.
Madigan appears to have the same closed rank protection from the crooked chitcago political machine as the dead mayor daley had. chitcago politics are an anomaly that defies any explanation or reason but is very, very effective. Mainly because the majority of the voting public (both dead and living) in chitcago seems to be complicit and is very happy to be led by some of the crookedest elected officials in the United States, and most likely in the whole world.
hussein was taught his stock in trade in chitcago and he was taught right. hussein may well be the most proficient at using the crooked chitcago design given the fact that nothing relatively dirty has ever rubbed off on him. That reality is in spite of the fact that he was once waist deep in the raw sewage cesspool of chitcago politics.
Where was the rapist enabler born and raised? Ahh yes, sweet home chitcago!
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And that's where your wrong. i don't have hatered for the Republican party. I worked for both sides at the capitol and I never not once treated the Republicans any different then I did the Democrats. I have friends on both sides. We have had many many discussions about both parties over the years.Originally posted by CIRF View PostKnowledge of the crooked chitcago democrat machine obviously doesn't equate to understanding and acknowledging the truth.
There is no denying all identified themselves as republicans, Schock was the only one who didn't have the approval and blessing of the crooked chitcago democratic machine. It's also undeniable that they were elected as a result of the blessings and approval of the chitcago democratic machine and they toed the chitcago democratic machine line prior to their asses being locked up. Their political philosophy was much less republican than chitcago democrat. They were republicans in name only and obviously you can't bring yourself to acknowledge the obvious as a result of your bitter hatred for the republican party. Could it be that hatred has clouded your judgement? Good chance, I reckon. LOL!!
You can identify them all as republicans all day long but it was the crooked chitcago democrat machine that got them elected, kept getting them elected and called the shots.
Machine Mikey Madigan is the present day equivalent to the dead mayor Daley. He's so crooked he couldn't lay in bed straight if he was strapped down, in traction and wearing a straight jacket.
If Madigan is so crooked why hasn't he been brought up on any charges. it's not like others haven't as you well know.
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