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Here's a good article from former Governor Jim Edgar. he points out how he got what he wanted at times from Madigan. Edgar points out Madigan used to be a fiscal conservative and Madigan tells Edagar why that changed.
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Edgar "turned the state around"????? From what??? This state is a cess pool!Originally posted by kidrock View PostWell I'm here to inform you he has. Ryan wanted Illinois First project and he and Madigan worked to get it done. It wasn't a Madigan project it was Ryan's project. Edgar turned the state around with the help of Madigan why because they worked together. it was give and take. their were things Madigan wanted and there were things Ryan and Edgar wanted. that's how it works in government. so they all wanted something out of it and they got it but, for anyone to say Madigan doesn't work with the other side is BS.
You have to have a willing partner to get things done as Rauner is finding out.
The ONLY constant for the last 30 years is Madigan and a declining Illinois. The state has gone downhill consistently during his tenure. FACT!
Rauner was elected for the sole reason to stand up to the Madigan machine and FIX the problems. Now Madigan is stonewalling. Why won't Madigan "work with" Rauner?
Maidigan is all about Chicago and nothing else. Show me where Madigan has done anything for downstate without something being in it for Chicago.
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Knowledge of the crooked chitcago democrat machine obviously doesn't equate to understanding and acknowledging the truth.Originally posted by kidrock View PostI probably know more about the chicago machine more then you do with working around all of them for 22 years but, I guess you can't bring yourself to the fact they were still Republicans.
George knew in order to get chit done he had to work with Madigan and he did. The same with Edgar but, blogo decided he was bigger then Madigan and you see where he ended up. Now Rauner thinks he's going to show Madigan but, so far it's not working. Madigan can and will work with the Republicans but, you have to have willing partners.
There is no denying all identified themselves as republicans, Schock was the only one who didn't have the approval and blessing of the crooked chitcago democratic machine. It's also undeniable that they were elected as a result of the blessings and approval of the chitcago democratic machine and they toed the chitcago democratic machine line prior to their asses being locked up. Their political philosophy was much less republican than chitcago democrat. They were republicans in name only and obviously you can't bring yourself to acknowledge the obvious as a result of your bitter hatred for the republican party. Could it be that hatred has clouded your judgement? Good chance, I reckon. LOL!!
You can identify them all as republicans all day long but it was the crooked chitcago democrat machine that got them elected, kept getting them elected and called the shots.
Machine Mikey Madigan is the present day equivalent to the dead mayor Daley. He's so crooked he couldn't lay in bed straight if he was strapped down, in traction and wearing a straight jacket.Last edited by CIRF; 07-05-2016, 10:48 AM.
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Well I'm here to inform you he has. Ryan wanted Illinois First project and he and Madigan worked to get it done. It wasn't a Madigan project it was Ryan's project. Edgar turned the state around with the help of Madigan why because they worked together. it was give and take. their were things Madigan wanted and there were things Ryan and Edgar wanted. that's how it works in government. so they all wanted something out of it and they got it but, for anyone to say Madigan doesn't work with the other side is BS.Originally posted by skids View PostNow you've showed your ignorance Kid. If you honestly think Madigan will EVER work with Republicans on anything other than what HE wants....you are nuts!
The Madigans are a major reason this state is in the shambles it's in. That's a FACT!
You have to have a willing partner to get things done as Rauner is finding out.
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Now you've showed your ignorance Kid. If you honestly think Madigan will EVER work with Republicans on anything other than what HE wants....you are nuts!Originally posted by kidrock View PostI probably know more about the chicago machine more then you do with working around all of them for 22 years but, I guess you can't bring yourself to the fact they were still Republicans.
George knew in order to get chit done he had to work with Madigan and he did. The same with Edgar but, blogo decided he was bigger then Madigan and you see where he ended up. Now Rauner thinks he's going to show Madigan but, so far it's not working. Madigan can and will work with the Republicans but, you have to have willing partners.
The Madigans are a major reason this state is in the shambles it's in. That's a FACT!
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I probably know more about the chicago machine more then you do with working around all of them for 22 years but, I guess you can't bring yourself to the fact they were still Republicans.Originally posted by CIRF View PostOne of two things are going on here. Either you're exceedingly naive and truly don't know what your talking about despite you're self proclaimed extensive exposure to crooked chitcago politicians or you're aware of reality and can't bring yourself to acknowledge it.
Even you may not know for sure.
George knew in order to get chit done he had to work with Madigan and he did. The same with Edgar but, blogo decided he was bigger then Madigan and you see where he ended up. Now Rauner thinks he's going to show Madigan but, so far it's not working. Madigan can and will work with the Republicans but, you have to have willing partners.Last edited by kidrock; 07-05-2016, 09:00 AM.
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One of two things are going on here. Either you're exceedingly naive and truly don't know what your talking about despite you're self proclaimed extensive exposure to crooked chitcago politicians or you're aware of reality and can't bring yourself to acknowledge it.
Even you may not know for sure.
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I worked at the capitol building and the governor's mansion for 22 years so, I know all about the Chicago machine but, I also know they ran as Republicans that I do know.Originally posted by CIRF View PostThe conclusion is simple, you don't know your chitcago politicians very well. Democrats, republicans, they're all the same when they come out of the chitcago machine. Any reasonable person that knows the least bit about chitcago/Illinois politics knows what I say is true. Thus we must conclude that you don't know what you're talking about. Gotta' love that.
The guys I speak of didn't become crooked chitcago machine politicians "all of a sudden". They started out as crooked chitcago politicians and they went to jail as such. To be successful in statewide elections you have to toe the democratic machine line whether you call yourself a republican or a democrat. It is clear you don't fully understand those facts. Hopefully we've cleared things up for you just a bit.
Like I said I don't care what machine they were part of they they still had a R behind their title.Last edited by kidrock; 07-05-2016, 08:04 AM.
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The conclusion is simple, you don't know your chitcago politicians very well. Democrats, republicans, they're all the same when they come out of the chitcago machine. Any reasonable person that knows the least bit about chitcago/Illinois politics knows what I say is true. Thus we must conclude that you don't know what you're talking about. Gotta' love that.Originally posted by kidrock View PostWhat I do know is they ran as republicans therfore they are republicans. if there were democrats why did they run as a republican. Like I said I don't care where their from.
You just gotta love it when republicans get into trouble and all of a sudden their democrats lol
The guys I speak of didn't become crooked chitcago machine politicians "all of a sudden". They started out as crooked chitcago politicians and they went to jail as such. To be successful in statewide elections you have to toe the democratic machine line whether you call yourself a republican or a democrat. It is clear you don't fully understand those facts. Hopefully we've cleared things up for you just a bit.
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