Tiregate lawsuit?

[old fan]

and how many time has he been caught cheating

[old fan]

seems funny according DIRTONDIRT TOM DEERY DIRECTOR OF WRG KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT IT

[jog49]

Cardirt0 should also be there, he seems to know everything.....lol

4M would be held in contempt of court for sending a dunce to the proceeding!

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

bloomer says he want to clear his name really scott https://www.bing.com/search?q=scott+...oomquist+chear

Yea thats a big joke putting that in his lawsuit.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

LOL.....how many times has Bloomer stated in his interviews that it wasn't over?......and those same 4m experts laughed it off!

Who's laughing now? LOL

Well bloomer will prolly win as corupt as the court system is.
It fits him perfect.

Look at all the innosent people that were found guilty and all the guilty that walk.

U go GIRL oops SCOTT sorry got caught up in the moment

[a25rjr]

Well bloomer will prolly win as corupt as the court system is.
It fits him perfect.

Look at all the innosent people that were found guilty and all the guilty that walk.

U go GIRL oops SCOTT sorry got caught up in the moment

I think its funny that everyone keeps saying bloomer this bloomer that.......what about the other 4?

That's called hypocrisy or double standards or better yet....HATER.....whichever you prefer!

[buster83]

the deal on the tires they did not fail for any substance abuse, should be case closed but tires lacked a chemical,nothing new here very possible after a few laps they had.but they ran a recheck on tires and they passed. this sounded fishy from the start it`s as if wrg wanted these tires to fail or the technicians are not properly trained.

[davis2902]

Bloomquist is using the same attorney that represented him when he got caught by WRG in 2009. Seems like that 6 month suspension held up. I don't see anything becoming of this any time soon.

[BloomerHarvickFan]

If the scales were that far off why wasn't somebody else light at the scales beside bloom quiet this ain't the first time he has been light at eldora he didn't sue nobody last time he should of saved his money this tim

Wouldn't the fact that he didn't sue before lend credibility to the lawsuit? Maybe the last time he knew why he weighed light, and this time, knew for certain he wouldn't be light.

[Barbecueboy]

LOL.....how many times has Bloomer stated in his interviews that it wasn't over?......and those same 4m experts laughed it off!

Who's laughing now? LOL

Well, me for one........but only at 4 ms version of Charlie's Angels.

[Barbecueboy]

the deal on the tires they did not fail for any substance abuse, should be case closed but tires lacked a chemical,nothing new here very possible after a few laps they had.but they ran a recheck on tires and they passed. this sounded fishy from the start it`s as if wrg wanted these tires to fail or the technicians are not properly trained.

Tin foil hats are adjustable and very comfortable if made correctly .........welcome to the club.......we welcome anyone.

[Cardirt0]

4M would be held in contempt of court for sending a dunce to the proceeding!

Who put you in charge of 4M... Dunce been called a lot of things Just dont care no more.. If it makes you a Big man do it...I know what i have done and were I have been and I am good with it...I know I am going home soon..1/2 the people on here will Still $uck when i do...Peace Love and the Best too you Cause You are what You are.....

[a25rjr]

This isn't NASCAR, the average track does not have a single full time employee. This will just add to the list of stuff that they will need to keep track of.

Right now we go by track scales, we always have with no issues. Cars come through and get weighed early in the night, and adjust if need be. I'm sure that is how it works at Eldora as well. Every car rolls across the same set of scales all week. Now tracks that might even be operating in the red weekly need to spring for another expense and more importantly someone needs to spend more time away from their job that likely pays the bills to have someone come inspect their scales on the time because a lawsuit completely ruined the system that has been working for 50+ years.

Same deal on the tires, all tires are sent to the same lab (this lab tests hundreds of tires annually) 32 tires were tested, 27 passed. Do you think the average track has the means to do anything more than seal the samples in an evidence bag or container? Do they need to fund their own lab on site? Make tires completely open? Not only do drivers currently want to spend less time prepping tires (as in many drivers are thrilled with the no maintenance tire rule at Eldora) but now they will have to groove, sipe, soak and whatever else their tires? I know I don't have time for that. As it is I won't be able to race more than 12-15 races a year because of the regular maintenance that goes on in between races, add in 8-10 more hours of tire prep and I just simply won't have time to do it at all -- and I'm sure there are a lot of drivers that feel the same way. That is the health risks aside which is an actual concern to me (and many others) -- maybe it isn't to you but we need everyone who currently supports racing and more to keep this sport going so our concerns are important even though others don't care about their health.

If they win this case it will be the end of dirt racing, what can't you sue for?

A driver punts you out of the way and the track does not put him to the back -- should said track expect court documents on Monday morning?

A rain delay forces a track to run on Sunday with less fans and cars and has to cut the purse but you already drove all the way to Michigan? Should the track expect court documents on Monday morning?

A driver goes through the tech and has too wide of a deck and gets DQed, should the driver sue and force the tech person to have eyes examined? Send the tape measure back to make sure it is 100% accurate?

In a lot of those situations it might be easy for a track to win, but it isn't easy for them to retain a lawyer, and all the costs associated with that. When you get this kind of stuff involved in dirt racing it is BAD. Anyone who thinks the demise of WRG would be a good thing is incorrect, your opinion is wrong. WRG is responsible for companies like Craftsman getting involved in dirt racing (if you don't think it has been beneficial just ask any WoO driver). They put on events like The World Finals, The Hell Tour, etc. which everyone loves. Do you think there is an organization out there that can just jump in and bring all the sponsors, and tracks together and put up that purse money guaranteed for all those Hell Tour shows? Not likely. Is there any other Sprint Tour out there that can just step in and bring the best Sprint drivers to Charlotte every Fall guaranteed (no, the only other possibilities owner is also stated in the lawsuit), same with the Dirtcar seires. It's bad. Very bad.

And the 50 year old system has been broken for 50 years and needs to be fixed. If you ever start racing and spend $2000 for a set of scales, you will see how frustrating it is. You know your scales are right but yet when you use the antiquated track scales you are 30 lbs light/heavy, so you have to ad or remove lead/fuel. Then your whole setup is off.

As far as the prep issue, it needs to be tweaked or if it cannot be, done away with. Theres way too many variables esp when a lot of money is on the line as well as drivers reputations.

[Barbecueboy]

This isn't NASCAR, the average track does not have a single full time employee. This will just add to the list of stuff that they will need to keep track of.

Right now we go by track scales, we always have with no issues. Cars come through and get weighed early in the night, and adjust if need be. I'm sure that is how it works at Eldora as well. Every car rolls across the same set of scales all week. Now tracks that might even be operating in the red weekly need to spring for another expense and more importantly someone needs to spend more time away from their job that likely pays the bills to have someone come inspect their scales on the time because a lawsuit completely ruined the system that has been working for 50+ years.

Same deal on the tires, all tires are sent to the same lab (this lab tests hundreds of tires annually) 32 tires were tested, 27 passed. Do you think the average track has the means to do anything more than seal the samples in an evidence bag or container? Do they need to fund their own lab on site? Make tires completely open? Not only do drivers currently want to spend less time prepping tires (as in many drivers are thrilled with the no maintenance tire rule at Eldora) but now they will have to groove, sipe, soak and whatever else their tires? I know I don't have time for that. As it is I won't be able to race more than 12-15 races a year because of the regular maintenance that goes on in between races, add in 8-10 more hours of tire prep and I just simply won't have time to do it at all -- and I'm sure there are a lot of drivers that feel the same way. That is the health risks aside which is an actual concern to me (and many others) -- maybe it isn't to you but we need everyone who currently supports racing and more to keep this sport going so our concerns are important even though others don't care about their health.

If they win this case it will be the end of dirt racing, what can't you sue for?

A driver punts you out of the way and the track does not put him to the back -- should said track expect court documents on Monday morning?

A rain delay forces a track to run on Sunday with less fans and cars and has to cut the purse but you already drove all the way to Michigan? Should the track expect court documents on Monday morning?

A driver goes through the tech and has too wide of a deck and gets DQed, should the driver sue and force the tech person to have eyes examined? Send the tape measure back to make sure it is 100% accurate?

In a lot of those situations it might be easy for a track to win, but it isn't easy for them to retain a lawyer, and all the costs associated with that. When you get this kind of stuff involved in dirt racing it is BAD. Anyone who thinks the demise of WRG would be a good thing is incorrect, your opinion is wrong. WRG is responsible for companies like Craftsman getting involved in dirt racing (if you don't think it has been beneficial just ask any WoO driver). They put on events like The World Finals, The Hell Tour, etc. which everyone loves. Do you think there is an organization out there that can just jump in and bring all the sponsors, and tracks together and put up that purse money guaranteed for all those Hell Tour shows? Not likely. Is there any other Sprint Tour out there that can just step in and bring the best Sprint drivers to Charlotte every Fall guaranteed (no, the only other possibilities owner is also stated in the lawsuit), same with the Dirtcar seires. It's bad. Very bad.

Then they ( woo, Lucas and whoever runs the sanctions )should get it right..............long gone are the days of trusting Sam or whomever just because they say we should.

Guys are smarter than that.

[Barbecueboy]

I guarantee if you get 50 people together those $2000 sets of scales and test the same car on all 50 you will have several different numbers. It is never going to be perfect. Regardless of what happens track scales will always need to be the rule, or we can't weigh cars and just let everyone get into a free for all of buying the most lightweight parts you can buy. I already have a set of scales and have seen a car roll off them and have a different weight at the track, you make adjustments and move on. If we start playing it any differently we will have each driver bringing their own set of scales to the track to prove their car is right -- I would say the current system works better.

If they start allowing people to prep tires I'm out, I simply don't have the time. I've already got a taste of what it takes to prep tires helping out friends this year and adding in more prep on top of that is going to eliminate a whole group of potential racers who just don't have that much time. 20-30 hours between races for maintenance is already crazy for a hobby. As the car counts continue to decline we need to be looking at ways to get more drivers to run, not alienate the few that we have now.

Thanks,
Jeff.

So you say if they go open and allow prep your out, but aren't you part of the same group that says everybody is doing it already anyway?( and if your not I apologize )

It's a very confusing to watch all you guys that say they all cheat get all huffy when the ones that say they don't try and defend their position........