Tiregate lawsuit?

[D. Tidrow]

That is apparent, at this point if I have to I have to -- I just think back to when I first started the series and was like a deer in the headlights with a lot of stuff, I do think it has been a great thing for the region and it worries me that less and less people will want to get involved on this side the more complicated and risky it gets. With low car counts all around and things like that maybe less tracks and series is what the world of dirt racing needs. Its just a tough pill for me to swallow.Thanks,Jeff.

Like I said, I love what you are doing for the sport. Keep doing what you are doing. Just make sure your azz is covered. All of us on 4m is very protective of this sport, if not we wouldn't be on here. This lawsuit will definitely change late model racing and all forms of short track racing, hopefully the better.

[Cardirt0]

Insurance is why NASCAR new rule for getting out of your car on the track.. Insurance said they get out of there car or go on too the track you are NOT covered... NASCAR says DONT do it no more...

[Cardirt0]

I hope you are right that no damage will come from it but I definitely can't shake the feeling that this is really bad. We will see I guess.

Thanks for supporting racing.

Jeff.

You need too call me there is somethings you need too do too cover your A$$.. That i need too pass on too you from my Lawyer...Its so easy too do if you want to keep doing this....

[Cardirt0]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/motorsports/eldora-gm-calls-dollar165m-lawsuit-against-stewart-others-meritless/ar-AAieyi9

Smoke says we did nothing wrong...Thats what you say even if you are Wrong....

[Hovlane]

I can live with a scale not being certified. I can live with a scale being off by 30 lbs as long as it's off by that much everytime. But when it's tested 6 times and you get 6 six different readings with that big of a range 15 to 61 lbs. That where the issue is for me. What good does it do to run your car across the scales to double check your weight when the thing reads something different everytime you pull on it?

[Barbecueboy]

This!!!! Post!!! Listen Jeff, I'm not hating on you, but you have to be realistic. I love what you do for the sport. I'm just saying there are certain things that you can do to protect yourself. When somebody labels somebody a cheater, you better be able to back that up. Whether anybody believes these allegations or not, these five drivers not only bloomquest feel otherwise. We can speculate all we want but now it's for the courts to decide.

Thread over........well put.

[Barbecueboy]

Well one thing is for sure, if you are right and the drivers win you can expect the insurance premiums for all the tracks all over the country to go up a considerable amount.

Thanks,
Jeff.

Jeff , you're an admirable guy that's involved in a sport he loves..........but this glass is half full no matter how you make it appear to be half empty.

Things will get better, more transparent and much more accurate.......which is exactly what everybody ( except the shady promoters at the shady facilities) want to have happen in the sport.

I along with everybody else understand your concern when lawyers get involved, but this was bound to happen sooner or later........the systems used are too easy to pick apart and find legitimate fault with.
As witnessed by this very lawsuit.

So instead of the track owner paying 3000 for insurance he pays 4000 per month for insurance......1000 dollars divided by 4 races worth of fans, drivers and crew.

What's that, about another 50 cents per person at the gate or the hot dog window to cover the costs and be certain?

I think people will pay it.......and keep coming every week.

[D. Tidrow]

Thread over........well put.

Thank you sir.

[Cardirt0]

Jeff , you're an admirable guy that's involved in a sport he loves..........but this glass is half full no matter how you make it appear to be half empty.

Things will get better, more transparent and much more accurate.......which is exactly what everybody ( except the shady promoters at the shady facilities) want to have happen in the sport.

I along with everybody else understand your concern when lawyers get involved, but this was bound to happen sooner or later........the systems used are too easy to pick apart and find legitimate fault with.
As witnessed by this very lawsuit.

So instead of the track owner paying 3000 for insurance he pays 4000 per month for insurance......1000 dollars divided by 4 races worth of fans, drivers and crew.

What's that, about another 50 cents per person at the gate or the hot dog window to cover the costs and be certain?

I think people will pay it.......and keep coming every week.

Big E needs to put the IN Ground Scales in, and Not use the one they set up on the Ground, have them tested 4 times a year and then No one could win a suit on them .. Most tracks have in ground scales and if the are tested they will be right for most of the year..If you can move the Scales you Have a real good change that they will be OFF...If you have In ground Scales charge the Driver 10 bucks and if the driver ask why, Tell then it for Insurance if they sue.. Then the drivers can say we did to are selfs.....90% of the tracks Have IN Ground Scales once tested they should be good for the year....ILL will come out and test it ever mouth if you ask them...

[W2Racing09]

Does anyone remember this? http://www.4m.net/showthread.php?358...ght=entry+fees

I wouldn't be so sure that everyone will be happy to have the increased costs passed onto them. I'm sure that is what will happen but then you will have another whole set of people complaining. It never ends.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[fastford]

I can live with a scale not being certified. I can live with a scale being off by 30 lbs as long as it's off by that much everytime. But when it's tested 6 times and you get 6 six different readings with that big of a range 15 to 61 lbs. That where the issue is for me. What good does it do to run your car across the scales to double check your weight when the thing reads something different everytime you pull on it?

i have to agree with this post, our track scale may not always agree with mine at home, which i check to the pound regularly, but the track scale is consistent, thats what really counts...

[Cardirt0]

i have to agree with this post, our track scale may not always agree with mine at home, which i check to the pound regularly, but the track scale is consistent, thats what really counts...

I will say it once more In ground Scales are not off most of the time a pound or 2.. Big E uses a On the ground scale you can pick it up and put it a way, once you Pick it up It is not Legal no more, needs too be retested .. Tracks with In ground scales will not have this problem ...

[Barbecueboy]

Does anyone remember this? http://www.4m.net/showthread.php?358...ght=entry+fees

I wouldn't be so sure that everyone will be happy to have the increased costs passed onto them. I'm sure that is what will happen but then you will have another whole set of people complaining. It never ends.

Thanks,
Jeff.

Nobody likes to pay more for anything, but if your buying a better product most won't have any issue with it.

Cheapskates will always bitch , informed fans and racers will have no problem paying 5 more to get in the pits or 50 cents more for a hot dog if the racing product is that much better.......my opinion of course

[Clayton_Wetter]

So if 90000 other people safely walked across a St Louie sidewalk, how high was Litey? After all, everyone else made it across that nasty sidewalk day or night, sun or snow? Why not Litey? It's a rhetorical question, because 4m knows the answer.

Actually Litey's pants fell down to his ankles just after he tied his two shoe strings together. Then he took one step and woke up with cement in his nose!!! hahahahhhahahahaaa

[Clayton_Wetter]

If Bloomer wins the suit will he give back the 50 Grand he stole from Moyer at Cedar Lake?

Come again???