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Tiregate lawsuit?
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sorry the sport does not revolve around one man no matter who they areOriginally posted by a25rjr View PostEven yourself cant possibly believe that! The sport is where it is today because of Scott. He has consistently raised the bar for everyone for the last 25 years! Its ok to not like him, but at least be honest!And, NO, he will not destroy it. This lawsuit will make it better. Now all the series will have to step up their game!
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I love how you guys say this will destroy the sport........in my opinion, what led to all this is destroying the sport.
If accurate and after reading all I can read that has been published so far, it sounds a lot like there may be a colored gentleman hiding in the woodpile behind wrg headquarters......for their sake, sure hope not.Where is the move over flag when you need it?????
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I bet when it is over the scale issue will be nothing. Because i talked to a track owner that said he had weights and measures people at his track every year to certify his gas pumps because they were used to sell something. Someone reported him to the state for disqualifying a car for to light and state came out and said it was not an issue because the scale wasn't being used to sell anything.Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View PostCan't speak for Ohio but I've spoken to 2 track owners in Illinois on this subject. They both laughed.
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He can use the same bullshot scenario that wrg uses.........everybody seems to have complete faith in their explanation of how the collection system works.Originally posted by onlyfacts View PostExplain how the samples Scott sent in can be proven that they came from the tire he used?Where is the move over flag when you need it?????
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The scale was most certainly used in determining pay...........but what do I know, just a cook at the tin foil cafe?Originally posted by onlyfacts View PostI bet when it is over the scale issue will be nothing. Because i talked to a track owner that said he had weights and measures people at his track every year to certify his gas pumps because they were used to sell something. Someone reported him to the state for disqualifying a car for to light and state came out and said it was not an issue because the scale wasn't being used to sell anything.Where is the move over flag when you need it?????
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This case isn't around one man. It is serious because it could set precedence on how the sport will be governed in the future. It will also make promotors and sponsors Leary of this business because of a lawsuit of this magnitude. Support of something like this could destroy it because contrary to what most people believe most promoters left in this business are barley holding on. Look at the thickness of a National Speedway directory from 2000 and look at a 2016 the 2016 one is half as thick. The print is still the same size. Guess what we are loosing race tracks very quickly. And yes Barbequeboy will say this lawsuit isn't the only reason. Well he is right it isn't but it will be one reasons a lot of promoters will change their minds on how much money they are willing to loose and this is a serious amount.Originally posted by old fan View Postsorry the sport does not revolve around one man no matter who they areLast edited by onlyfacts; 08-31-2016, 09:17 AM.
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Amen.Originally posted by onlyfacts View PostThis case isn't around one man. It is serious because it could set precedence on how the sport will be governed in the future. It will also make promotors and sponsors Leary of this business because of a lawsuit of this magnitude. Support of something like this could destroy it because contrary to what most people believe most promoters left in this business are barley holding on. Look at the thickness of a National Speedway directory from 2000 and look at a 2016 the 2016 one is half as thick. The print is still the same size. Guess what we are loosing race tracks very quickly. And yes Barbequeboy will say this lawsuit isn't the only reason. Well he is right it isn't but it will be one reasons a lot of promoters will change their minds on how much money they are willing to loose and this is a serious amount.
Thanks,
Jeff.
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and if this goes thru tracks across the country could just close up congrats scott but how ca n scot defend the scales problem when all other drivers made weight plus is his scales state certified , those 5 may not intentionly doped the tires either but everyday chemicals they use on the car can trigger off the labsOriginally posted by onlyfacts View PostThis case isn't around one man. It is serious because it could set precedence on how the sport will be governed in the future. It will also make promotors and sponsors Leary of this business because of a lawsuit of this magnitude. Support of something like this could destroy it because contrary to what most people believe most promoters left in this business are barley holding on. Look at the thickness of a National Speedway directory from 2000 and look at a 2016 the 2016 one is half as thick. The print is still the same size. Guess what we are loosing race tracks very quickly. And yes Barbequeboy will say this lawsuit isn't the only reason. Well he is right it isn't but it will be one reasons a lot of promoters will change their minds on how much money they are willing to loose and this is a serious amount.
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Raising the bar, does nothing for the health of the sport. The lawsuit could be catastrophic for the health of the sport.Originally posted by a25rjr View PostEven yourself cant possibly believe that! The sport is where it is today because of Scott. He has consistently raised the bar for everyone for the last 25 years! Its ok to not like him, but at least be honest!
And, NO, he will not destroy it. This lawsuit will make it better. Now all the series will have to step up their game!Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing
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SECOND CAUSE OF ACTION37. On June 9, 2016, Plaintiff Scott Bloomquist participated in a preliminary race, leading to the 2016 edition of the “The Late Model Dream†held on June 11, 2016. Having finished second in that event, a rubber sample was taken from one of the tires on his racecar, for eventual “blind†analysis by an allegedly independent laboratory to determine if the tire from which the sample was taken was in compliance with the rule promulgated by WRG and forbidding “Chemical alterations, vulcanizing, tire softening, defacing and/or altering the face of the tire….Chemicals or tire softening is not permitted…â€38. In what are purported to be “blind tests†the lab results include the names of each driver whose tire was tested.39. A technician from Blue Ridge Laboratories (the laboratory which tested tire samples for WRG), testified (at a WRG-conducted appeal hearing) that her examination found that “the sample did not match the benchmark supplied by the tire manufacturerâ€. The lab tests did not reveal the presence of any foreign substance in the sample taken from the Bloomquist racecar.40. The lab representative was unable to state any familiarity with the operation of race tires on racecars, specifically, she not aware of what temperature the tires operate at during racing.41. While some of the Plaintiffs herein were provided with a graph of the supposed “benchmark†test result, Mr. Bloomquist was not.42. While the sole justification offered by WRG for the disqualification of Scott Bloomquist was that the driver’s sample test results did not match the “benchmarkâ€, graphs provided showed that two tests done on samples from the same tire did not match each other.43. There has been no evidence offered by WRG which identifies any foreign substance present in Mr. Bloomquist’s tire sample.
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44. There has been no evidence offered by WRG to account for possible chemical change caused by heat that the tires are subjected to during racing.45. There has been no evidence offered by WRG to show that any chemical alteration, or other prohibited treatment of Mr. Bloomquist’s tire occurred.46. Subsequent to the disqualification, samples from the same tire were sent to Blue Ridge Labs anonymously and the lab report stated that that sample did match the benchmark. Not only were the two tests done by Blue Ridge at the behest of WRG not consistent, a subsequent test done by the same lab yielded yet another result.47. As a result of chemical analysis which was at best inconclusive, if not falsified, Plaintiff Scott Bloomquist was deprived of cash winnings, fines, and as a result of the suspension levied by WRG, is deprived of the opportunity to race for three months impacting his ability to earn a living. Further, his reputation, as a sports celebrity, has been damaged, which impacts his ability to market himself to fans and potential sponsors.48. The baseless allegation, coupled with public statements by WRG, that Mr. Bloomquist cheated, amounts to slander.49. As result of the deprivation of prize monies, opportunities to compete in other races, and the slander which attributes cheating behavior without basis in fact, Mr. Bloomquist has been damaged in the amount of Two Million Dollars.
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You guys keep saying damaging the sport via this lawsuit. I do not agree, i believe WRG and UMP have damaged this sport for years and now someone has had enough and got the Lawyers involved.
Read the complaints above, it clearly spells out half a$$ testing. No chemicals were found, no foreign chemicals were found, stated very clearly. But the tires showed different results, why? They dont even know why, then they re-test and the results still dont match the prior results. The whole process if bogus.
Like or not WRG screwed the pooch royally, and they have there feet to the fire, and i say good. If your gonna run a sanctioning body you better have enough brains to govern it fairly.
As for the weight, its pretty simple, the scales were proven to be out of calibration. It doesn't matter if everyone else passed, that only means everyone else was carrying to much weight around.
Just say no...
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