UMP / HOOSIER Tire Issues. Racers / Promoters Why 20's instead of 40's?

[RoundNrOUND]

This will not get rid of tire prep, if anything it will further promote treating tires. That's put this in prospective so everyone understands. Richard's says that there was a .6 difference a LAP in siping & grooving compared to not. So now we have a baseline to think about, what's the difference between a prepped up set of 20's with a RR 40 when the track is black as coal and ripping of RF's? My guess after 15-20 laps it's hitting that same .5-.6 number that Richard's brought up earlier. You have to realize that not all prep softens tires, some of its main purposes is to strengthen the tire and help it not drop off in speed as the laps click off. FYI

[old fan]

Off the too of my head, Erb sounded less than pleased.They just changed what type of tire magic is neded and crippled some peoples cars.

every body had the same package poor ERB

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

every body had the same package poor ERB

Tires are supposed to be part of the game. Picking the right tires is a part of it.

[old fan]

Not under UMP or Lucas got 2choices in Lucas and and who says this the new rules it might be 20 40 no siping etc

[Barbecueboy]

Not under UMP or Lucas got 2choices in Lucas and and who says this the new rules it might be 20 40 no siping etc

Someone should cut and sipe on your noggin to see if we can bring back any life to it.....you be trippin litey.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Not under UMP or Lucas got 2choices in Lucas and and who says this the new rules it might be 20 40 no siping etc

And Lucas Oil Series is clown college central. All they are going to do is turn this sport into NASCRAP. Then Forrest Lucas will be gone some day and leave the excrement on the floor.

[old fan]

OK so what tire rule

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

OK so what tire rule

Depends on where you live. 3 choices, do what you want and race.

[old fan]

Exactly and guys like that Rule in Ump

[Cardirt0]

every body had the same package poor ERB

Erb Is my Friend you dont want to start on him cause I will be hunting you...

[Cardirt0]

Tires are supposed to be part of the game. Picking the right tires is a part of it.

The more they try too make Them all the same, the more they are not...Look how bad It F==Ked up NASCAR car...Now they doing it too SLM........

[Kromulous]

Exactley, open all, cheat em up whatever, have fun.

Pass a size hoop, and have a nice day.

[Bubstr]

Exactley, open all, cheat em up whatever, have fun.

Pass a size hoop, and have a nice day.

This sounds like a good and fair plan. If there are specific chemicals that are health concerns, not day to day household items, specify and make the penalty permanent. Make three compounds available to race and if they are miss-marked, Make the penalties permanent. The ones that get miss-marked tires, know they are getting them. That is why they had to buy a big lot to get them. No matter how you write rules, there will always be some kind of advantage that needs addressing. By opening up the rules, it gives more legal tire selection and less options to gain a unfair advantage that would be small at best. If they want to take siping and needling away, fine, but should be able to re groove on factory pattern. Just making groove wider to get a new edge. This would allow the used tire buyer a way to save money, at the cost of a little performance, as it is now.

[Kromulous]

Best bet would be for the Sanctioning Bodies to work directly with Hoosier and American Racer and have them only produce Late Model tires in 3 or 4 compounds and tread patterns.

Then you can have an open tire rule, or make it no grooving and siping, only buffing.

[dirty bert]

Exactley, open all, cheat em up whatever, have fun.Pass a size hoop, and have a nice day.

Let em dope em up an turn em loose ,most of your local racers doing it now they lieing if they say there not