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  • rickybrown1952
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 1448

    #1

    Ump

    Supposedly a track in Illinois has been told by ump that they are not allowed to run a lucus oil show and if they do they will loose their ump sanction and the summer natlonals totally rediculouis way too much control over a track and what they can and cannot do
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  • cjp0354
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 377

    #2
    Tri City and Macon runs both UMP and Lucas. Correct?

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    • bleedblue55
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 1872

      #3
      Isn't UMP part of the WRG World of Outlaws group. Tyler County Speedway ran their usual WOO late model show over Memorial Day and had Lucas Oil there over Labor Day for the Hillbilly. Pretty sure both sanctions will be back at the Bullring next year.

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      • dirt FANatic 11
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2013
        • 220

        #4
        According to the Facebook post, UMP told the new track that all other tracks were "Grandfathered in". Thats why Macon and Tri-City can run Lucas.

        Total BS. This is why tracks have to close. UMP dictates what the track can and can not do to promote their business.
        2018:

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        • calverton
          Banned
          • Sep 2016
          • 1591

          #5
          Originally posted by rickybrown1952 View Post
          Supposedly a track in Illinois has been told by ump that they are not allowed to run a lucus oil show and if they do they will loose their ump sanction and the summer natlonals totally rediculouis way too much control over a track and what they can and cannot do
          the track in question doesn't run run late models on a weekly basis might have something to do with it , does a track really need woo or lucas at their track to survive tri city speedway biggest money weekend is mod mania in september
          Last edited by calverton; 10-20-2016, 08:36 AM.

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          • calverton
            Banned
            • Sep 2016
            • 1591

            #6
            Originally posted by dirt FANatic 11 View Post
            According to the Facebook post, UMP told the new track that all other tracks were "Grandfathered in". Thats why Macon and Tri-City can run Lucas. Total BS. This is why tracks have to close. UMP dictates what the track can and can not do to promote their business.
            try getting a summer nationals race at lucas oil speedway

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            • calverton
              Banned
              • Sep 2016
              • 1591

              #7
              you never see a lucas show at Eldora either they don't need to
              Last edited by calverton; 10-20-2016, 05:17 PM.

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              • MI Dirt Fan
                Banned
                • May 2007
                • 8806

                #8
                Old fag, I mean Calverton. You obviously haven't learned your lesson yet. This must be like internet porn to you.

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                • dirt FANatic 11
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 220

                  #9
                  calverton, do either of those tracks want one of those races? (does Lucas Oil Speedway want a SN, or does Eldora want a Lucas Series race?) so what is your point?

                  Those 2 tracks are gems and can stand on their own. Eldora could go unsanctioned for both the Deam & World, and they would still get the same amount of cars
                  2018:

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                  • cjp0354
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 377

                    #10
                    Can we please just say what track it is, instead of hiding that detail. I think if its true that's a bunch of BS.

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                    • dirt FANatic 11
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 220

                      #11
                      Fayette County Speedway in Illinois
                      2018:

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                      • HoosierDirtFan
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 22186

                        #12
                        Originally posted by rickybrown1952 View Post
                        Supposedly a track in Illinois has been told by ump that they are not allowed to run a lucus oil show and if they do they will loose their ump sanction and the summer natlonals totally rediculouis way too much control over a track and what they can and cannot do
                        The track was Fayette County Speedway. Saw the post by the promoter on their Facebook page last night.
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                        • LMMS24
                          Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 69

                          #13
                          I believe Spoon River Speedway was told the same thing last year.

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                          • W2Racing09
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 1691

                            #14
                            I don't really think it hurts UMP to allow a LOLMDS show at a UMP track. I just quickly glanced at the LOLMDS schedule and picked out 11 that I think are at UMP sanctioned tracks. With the addition of FCS that would be 12. I somehow doubt the WoO LM wants to add 12 races to their already huge schedule. You are basically telling a track that they are not allowed to have a big race at their track. Either they give them a WoO LM date or they let them run LOLMDS it is BS to do it any other way. I would think it would be cool for the fans to see both sets of drivers at the track in the same season, most of the drivers on LOLMDS run UMP races a ton during the season too so its not like it does not support them.

                            I understand it is business and all but both tours seem to work together a little bit, I don't see why they need to worsen relations its only bad for the sport. (and obviously this time UMP is the aggressor)

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                            • 427c.i.
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 1218

                              #15
                              I was told a rumor a few years ago that FALS was told the same thing when they wanted to book a Lucas show.
                              Like I said, rumor but it does sound like the same story FCS is being told.

                              Too bad, I guess the WRG is afraid of the competition.

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