Ump

[Bubstr]

A link to what? It's as illegal as predatory pricing, monopolies, and collusion, which are all serious threats to our great capitalist system. If this happened in corporate America there would be an instant antitrust lawsuit. Not to mention it's simply unethical, which should be enough to stop companies and organizations from doing it. Look up the AMD v Intel case where AMD claimed that Intel threatened to stop providing processors to companies that also used AMD processors. Intel knew they were guilty and settled for 1.25 billion dollars.

What is illegal, is to take the incentives offered by a contract and not fulfill your end of the contract. UMP provides a service. The track pays for that service according to the contract. You have a choice.

[GEAR_HEAD]

What is illegal, is to take the incentives offered by a contract and not fulfill your end of the contract. UMP provides a service. The track pays for that service according to the contract. You have a choice.

So you know for a fact that the contract states that Fayette County cannot have a Lucas Oil race? I find it hard to believe that you have seen a copy of that contract. Plus you, like everybody else, never mention that it is immoral to handcuff promoters from making money and doing what is best for their tracks.

[ptown]

So you know for a fact that the contract states that Fayette County cannot have a Lucas Oil race? I find it hard to believe that you have seen a copy of that contract. Plus you, like everybody else, never mention that it is immoral to handcuff promoters from making money and doing what is best for their tracks.

Nothing illegal what UMP has done, immoral that's a matter of opinion.

[GEAR_HEAD]

Nothing illegal what UMP has done, immoral that's a matter of opinion.

So you didn't do any research. Typical.

[fryefan]

Nothing illegal what UMP has done, immoral that's a matter of opinion.

I agree with this assessment.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Kind of like a dirt racing mafia???

[GEAR_HEAD]

I agree with this assessment.

Because you know nothing about business law. Straight from the Federal Trade Commission website:

Refusal to Deal
In general, any business — even a monopolist — may choose its business partners. However, under certain circumstances, there may be limits on this freedom for a firm with market power. As courts attempt to define those limited situations when a firm with market power may violate antitrust law by refusing to do business with other firms, the focus is on how the refusal to deal helps the monopolist maintain its monopoly, or allows the monopolist to use its monopoly in one market to attempt to monopolize another market.

Sometimes the refusal to deal is with customers or suppliers, with the effect of preventing them from dealing with a rival: "I refuse to deal with you if you deal with my competitor." For example, in a case from the 1950's, the only newspaper in a town refused to carry advertisements from companies that were also running ads on a local radio station. The newspaper monitored the radio ads and terminated its ad contracts with any business that ran ads on the radio. The Supreme Court found that the newspaper's refusal to deal with businesses using the radio station strengthened its dominant position in the local advertising market and threatened to eliminate the radio station as a competitor.

[calverton]

Its called protecting you self interest also

[GEAR_HEAD]

Its called protecting you self interest also

Illegally. The proper way to handle it is improve their product (WOO) so that tracks would rather have a WOO show than a Lucas show. Or they can offer more competitive sanctioning fees than Lucas. Those are LEGAL ways to protect your interests. They way they're doing it is ILLEGAL. I guess UMP's slogan should be "if you can't beat 'em, cheat 'em"! Their blatant disregard for laws and morals should be enough cause for tracks to start dumping them and form their own alliance. They don't care about the promoters, drivers, or fans anymore. They only care about padding their pockets and taking care of their own special interests. The Hillary Clinton of dirt racing. We need a modern day Bob Memmer.

[calverton]

The track in question couldn't handle a woo show or a lucas show not enough stands plus it has in past ran very very late shows like 4 am shows

[GEAR_HEAD]

The track in question couldn't handle a woo show or a lucas show not enough stands plus it has in past ran very very late shows like 4 am shows

They're putting in more stands and they ran a fine show when I was there. But those points aren't relative to this conversation.

[Cardirt0]

Farmercity was told that they would lose UMP if they ran a Lucas race when they just got UMP back....

[Bubstr]

Sounds to me, that this track wants the advantages of being a UMP track and not do anything for it. There is no free lunch. The bad part is, in this area, if your not a UMP track, you don't have enough cars to run LM programs.There are more Late Models around, but they run for UMP points fund.

[GEAR_HEAD]

Sounds to me, that this track wants the advantages of being a UMP track and not do anything for it. There is no free lunch. The bad part is, in this area, if your not a UMP track, you don't have enough cars to run LM programs.There are more Late Models around, but they run for UMP points fund.

I'm sure they pay a fee for UMP sanctioning. That's all they have to do for it.

[Bubstr]

I'm sure they pay a fee for UMP sanctioning. That's all they have to do for it.

Really? See how that works for them.