Tires

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

wrong the weekly racers want it at least in my area they do which is UMP and that's 4 tracks right there

Is that so? Who? Bobby and Frankie Jr?

[calverton]

No rusty griffaw some guy named zorbist kloos westling most of the mod guys most those guys have a 9-5 job and don't want to work on tires all week they might have a l ife out side of racing frankie jr doesn't run weekly

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

No rusty griffaw some guy named zorbist kloos westling most of the mod guys most those guys have a 9-5 job and don't want to work on tires all week they might have a l ife out side of racing frankie jr doesn't run weekly

It wouldn't be the first time I saw guys vote against their best interest. But I don't know those guys budgets.

[calverton]

Griffaw does'nt have a big budget kloos does or seems to zorbist has a good size budget or seems to but also has a 3 car team plus to mods and a couple street stocks he finished 6th both nights at the dome with a 2006 rocket plus hauler is not what it looks like either its scraps pieced together

[westlingracing]

Calverton is right, actually the real fast guys that should be touring are the only ones that have whined about changing to a non groove and sipe rule. Super lates around here are as competitive as it gets. Tire prep is where it's all at. I say run 20s all 4 corners and allow sanding and that's all we need. If we go to a harder tire then we will have more juice being used. Stay with a 20 and there will be less juice being used. Might have a few lose a rr but might teach them not to abuse them like they do with the 40s.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Calverton is right, actually the real fast guys that should be touring are the only ones that have whined about changing to a non groove and sipe rule. Super lates around here are as competitive as it gets. Tire prep is where it's all at. I say run 20s all 4 corners and allow sanding and that's all we need. If we go to a harder tire then we will have more juice being used. Stay with a 20 and there will be less juice being used. Might have a few lose a rr but might teach them not to abuse them like they do with the 40s.

I will take your word for your area, but I think our area is where it is at. We don't worry about everyone cheating if we run the tires that work for us and can keep using them as long as we want to.

Just realize you will get beat by those 20s that can go 100 laps at Atomic. Figure out how long and what temp to put them in a big oven and you might be ok.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Litey only gets his info when the guys come in to the parts store to buy car parts.

[Clayton_Wetter]

really now https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/s...9&action=click

You just proved master's point.

[grt74]

going to no sipe,no groove = more time to work on the car, the next complaint that i have would be all the different tire compounds, have a soft, med,hard and be done with it, myself I'm in the middle of hell when it comes to tires, we have to have a truck full to race, some tracks are 1350-1600 some are lm20-30-40 some are 1350 spec -1600 spec and even then some will let you run 1450's,ive always have said this, tires are my biggest complaint,because we all have jobs, hell I've spent 1 1/2 to 2 days on tires for a two day weekend,
im all for the no sipe,no groove, to me its an even playing field(as far as tires), then you don't have to worry about siping them wrong or cutting them up to much

[calverton]

you just proved master's point.

really clayton friday portion of the world 100 were considered races 1 and 2 of the year by dirtondirt

[calverton]

Grt74 ump their tire rule 20s on all but the right rear where you can 20 or 40s that was the tire rule for the world and gateway

[calverton]

litey only gets his info when the guys come in to the parts store to buy car parts.

i am at the a track every weekend and it the pits after the races only been their since the late 70's

[calverton]

i will take your word for your area, but i think our area is where it is at. We don't worry about everyone cheating if we run the tires that work for us and can keep using them as long as we want to.just realize you will get beat by those 20s that can go 100 laps at atomic. Figure out how long and what temp to put them in a big oven and you might be ok.

you mean like 20s at the lil race in rossburg also

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

really clayton friday portion of the world 100 were considered races 1 and 2 of the year by dirtondirt

And the track was wet for 20s....

We were talking about saturday

[calverton]

calverton is right, actually the real fast guys that should be touring are the only ones that have whined about changing to a non groove and sipe rule. Super lates around here are as competitive as it gets. Tire prep is where it's all at. I say run 20s all 4 corners and allow sanding and that's all we need. If we go to a harder tire then we will have more juice being used. Stay with a 20 and there will be less juice being used. Might have a few lose a rr but might teach them not to abuse them like they do with the 40s.

great post