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  • dirt crow
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 3596

    #1

    Big time super drivers in crates

    Look. I’m not saying I’m right or wrong on the following. Just my personal opinion. But I think if you’ve won a 10k super event, you shouldn’t be allowed to race in crate races. I’m probably gonna be hammered here but that’s just how I see it. Let the small time crate late model guys have there big races without the super drivers.
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  • golddirt
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 3787

    #2
    That's cherry picking

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    • TheJet-09
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 1616

      #3
      There was a time when I probably would have agreed with you, but I now think it's just part of the game. The old Northern All-Stars series was geared towards the "little guy" as most shows paid around $2K to win, but when the Bob Pierce's and Don O'Neals showed up on a routine basis and often took that money, the original intent of the series went away.

      With that same logic, someone like Jason Feger shouldn't be allowed to run a weekly show at tracks like Farmer City, but the fact is drivers of his notoriety bring fans and more exposure to any event they are at. And in the end, make any event better than it might have been, even for the racers. Knowing I'm gonna get lapped by a driver as such, there's still something to be learned from them by someone like me. Who better to gauge your performance against than someone like Feger or Unzicker or Weaver?

      I get what you are saying, and I'm not hammering you, but if someone is a good driver, they're a good driver regardless of what class they're driving in. Any promoter, and racers alike, should welcome the best of the best to any event.

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      • mike10
        Member
        • Aug 2007
        • 54

        #4
        Another example of money taking over the sport. That 10,000 went to a team with an unlimited budget versus a team that could have possibly really used the money for there program here at the end of the year.

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        • Bob Hubbard
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2008
          • 1048

          #5
          I just read a post on facebook about letting adj shocks in crates at florence speedway ..... The track owners are the blame for some of this .... Open shocks invite the Big teams to run crates ..... Limited should have a shock claiim rule to keep this in check ....
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          • hipower17
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 643

            #6
            i can agree with bob on his comment. i wonder what type tech they do on engines at the big money shows?

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            • dirtcrazy4u
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2017
              • 3212

              #7
              Money chases money. If doesn't matter what the purse is. Should JD be in a crate car ? NO. Is JD going to turn down the extra pay check. I doubt it. It's never going to stop, guys want to race.

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              • huskerdirt
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 5620

                #8
                Originally posted by TheJet-09 View Post
                There was a time when I probably would have agreed with you, but I now think it's just part of the game. The old Northern All-Stars series was geared towards the "little guy" as most shows paid around $2K to win, but when the Bob Pierce's and Don O'Neals showed up on a routine basis and often took that money, the original intent of the series went away.

                With that same logic, someone like Jason Feger shouldn't be allowed to run a weekly show at tracks like Farmer City, but the fact is drivers of his notoriety bring fans and more exposure to any event they are at. And in the end, make any event better than it might have been, even for the racers. Knowing I'm gonna get lapped by a driver as such, there's still something to be learned from them by someone like me. Who better to gauge your performance against than someone like Feger or Unzicker or Weaver?

                I get what you are saying, and I'm not hammering you, but if someone is a good driver, they're a good driver regardless of what class they're driving in. Any promoter, and racers alike, should welcome the best of the best to any event.
                Well said.

                If people don’t want guys like Lanigan showing up for a 10k to win crate show. Then stop making them 10k to win or more. Every racer has a right to race how she/he pleases. The whole “a super driver can’t race a crate” argument is socialism at its best. To be honest, the only ones complaining are fans, who more than likely didn’t even go to the event.

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                • dirty bert
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 297

                  #9
                  The NeSmith deal was a great idea when Vaughan first started it ,I forget first name but you had your working man chasing it they get of work run home hook up the pickup an hurry to the track , the guy that one the first championship had a trailer built out of a uhaul box an had to use vacation time to get to some tracks to far , now walk through the pits an look around.

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                  • MasterSbilt_Racer
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 14324

                    #10
                    When they initially started having big NeSmith races, you were not eligible unless you raced so many shows. This was to keep the ringers out. But, big names sell more tickets. I see nothing wrong with being exclusionary, but the economics have to work. I mean, going the other way is exclusionary. If a local goes to a Lucas show, he is only racing for maybe half the number of spots on the starting grid. He also is subject to more aggressive body tech.
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                    • nuff said
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 1348

                      #11
                      Chelsey Dixon won the 20k crate race at Swainsboro last night.I'm sure he didn't care was behind him.JD,Overton and Bronson were the biggest names I noticed.

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                      • Josh Bayko
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 8757

                        #12
                        It used to bother me, but it doesn’t matter to me anymore. It’s their money, they can do what they want with it.
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                        • Chris Thomason
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2017
                          • 1078

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Highside Hustler25
                          I read where someone said he was there to sell cars. I really don't buy into that . It was a no win if that was the reason for being there. Had he by chance gotten beat by some regional guy, that theory would of backfired. He wins and most feel, well he should have won against a bunch of inferior teams.
                          If you are referring to when I said that on the press release thread, I dont know that he was selling cars I just hate the cherry pickin moniker.

                          My opinion on the whole matter is it only helps car count. Im sure guys like Jesse Lowe, Corey Hedgec0ck, or Chase Edge dont care who shows up. If you're gonna be the man you gotta beat the man. If Lanigan wanted to go race after his primary ride season is over then why not crates? Cheaper in the engine department, and someone said a couple weeks ago that the old #29 was still in the shop. Nobody fussing when they run mods.

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                          • zyoung25
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 8960

                            #14
                            I would bet there were guys out there that had just as much money in their equipment as Lanigan does. He was just that much better than them.

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                            • TerryM
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 3902

                              #15
                              Without those big names, the crowds would be maybe half the size they are now. Swainsboro is the worst dirt track I've ever been to, but the bleachers were full last night. And it wasn't because the local crate guys were there.

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