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  • grt74
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 1380

    #136
    Originally posted by hucktyson View Post
    So if you take a 50k xr 1 , buy a 55k ford , and spend another 10k on plumbing tranny etc you are now driving a crate motor cadet if it's only allowed to hike 47.5 ??? If speed if the objective go drag racing. Let's say keeping the deck as much as 10" lower on some cars causes a 10mph drop in top speed, for the record I bet it's more at a place like Pittsburgh when it's slick and you hit a hole with a car lower to the ground going slower you think it's not less dangerous than hitting a hole in a car that's higher going faster ?? Eldora got rid of grooving and siping and it was supposed to be the end of the world except the cRs went as fast or faster because they came back hiked several inches higher !!! The faster a car goes the harder it is on motors and the harder it hits when it wrecks .... those are undeniable truths. 55k motors that cost 16,500 every 1000 laps are retarded when the vast majority of racers are taking home less than 1k each night they race ... minus fuel , tires , hauler fuel , pit passes , wear on the car and 800 plus in motor wear in 1 effing night !! I get racing is expensive but tracks can't afford to pay more and back in the 80's we got rid of wedge cars for a reason and here we are in 2017 and wedge cars are back only with 250 more hp and much better suspensions .... This rule costs virtually nothing except for the toss offs who will spend another 20k to have an engineer come hold their schmed during a test session to max out the new rule ...
    I've got a car for sale for 50 and it will run with anything out there, they are not that expensive

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    • hucktyson
      Banned
      • May 2007
      • 1903

      #137
      Yes you can buy used for cheaper, the prices I stated are new and top of the line. My point was it's still a 900hp car only it can't hike as high. Take the car you have an go win some lucas races with it and then you can say it will " run with anything ". There is no logical reason you can present to let cars hike higher and higher and rely on aero more and more. Why do we need to make the cars easy to drive and easy to put down power ?? If you want easy to drive they have a crate division. This rule seems very common sense , get the spoiler down 8 or 9" out of the air. I would go further and make decks 36" static and maybe 45 hiked. And then I would mandate no bump stops or stacked springs , no grooving , no siping and nothing softer than 1425. And I'd make the weight limit 2375 after the race. That still leaves you thousands of combinations and puts a lot of it back in the drivers hands.

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      • JabberJaws83
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 848

        #138
        Originally posted by Illtsate32 View Post
        I seen Morans new xr1 on facebook last week just the interior and deck in it..no exaggeration its an absolute wedge from the lr tire to the spoiler 6-8 inches of rake at least...looks like a ski slope..completely out of hand but apparently they are not worried about any rule..them spoilers will be head high in 2018 if nothing is done...
        It’s ridiculous. We will see if Francis has any nuts or if he’s going to be neutered. (I know Moran is WoO, but every car out of Rocket looks the same)

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        • chupp n bloomer fan
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 11526

          #139
          Jabber

          And I betcha every top chassis out there is doing the same.

          Hence Overton is a Longhorn.
          Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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          • BloomerHarvickFan
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 546

            #140
            I know NASCAR is a dirty word here, but look at what they've done the last few years. Taking more downforce away, making the cars stick less. The racing is still not "great" but getting much better than it was a few years ago.
            The spoilers are less than half of what they were 5 years ago.

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            • JabberJaws83
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 848

              #141
              Originally posted by chupp n bloomer fan View Post
              And I betcha every top chassis out there is doing the same.

              Hence Overton is a Longhorn.
              Chupp you are definitely correct. They all have no choice right now. Monkey see, monkey do and you gotta keep up or get left behind quickly

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              • weems085
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2017
                • 5

                #142
                I'm not picking on any one but the 116 was parked right near us their car was in no way legal and they had it toned down a bit from its usual stance but they were allowed to race without issue and i don't blame them or anyone else for pushing were racers that's what we do.
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                • Josh Bayko
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 8758

                  #143
                  Originally posted by chupp n bloomer fan View Post
                  And I betcha every top chassis out there is doing the same.

                  Hence Overton is a Longhorn.
                  First cars I remember seeing with the crazy sloped decks were Club/BD cars. And this was a couple years ago now.
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                  • MasterSbilt_Racer
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 14324

                    #144
                    Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
                    First cars I remember seeing with the crazy sloped decks were Club/BD cars. And this was a couple years ago now.
                    First cars I saw with a sideboard interior next to the driver was Swartz. At least 5 years ago.
                    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                    • Josh Bayko
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 8758

                      #145
                      Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                      First cars I saw with a sideboard interior next to the driver was Swartz. At least 5 years ago.
                      Wasnt there a race where Jackie got disqualified or something because the whole hood was dropped too?
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                      • MasterSbilt_Racer
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 14324

                        #146
                        Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
                        Wasnt there a race where Jackie got disqualified or something because the whole hood was dropped too?
                        Yes. Either dq or sent home. I forget.
                        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                        • Illtsate32
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 3079

                          #147
                          They should make all 90s meet flush no fins of any kind to catch any kind of air...

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                          • race14
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2008
                            • 307

                            #148
                            Stupid rule waste of time no one runs cooks series anyway. DOD says it's to reduce roll over accidents , stupid it's not like they flip when they go in the turns. Stupid azz waste of time.

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                            • Hoosier_Dirt
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 1632

                              #149
                              Originally posted by MBR Performance View Post
                              Just move the (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) shock and spring back in front of the LR. Doesn't cost anyone a dime.
                              I would love to see this happen!! All tracks, and series should do this!

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                              • profab00
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 110

                                #150
                                The guy given the credit for late models still being around is Bob Member, if he was still around, wonder what he would do if one of the new cars came thru his tech line?

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