Ray Cooks new droop rule

[Illtsate32]

Somebody just post that one pic of Overtons car with the yellow wrap lol..it looks like it was in a rollover the way the body was all twisted when in fact it was just taken out of the hauler...not one uniformed body panel on it it looks like a cat that got kicked in a$$...terrible

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Is there currently a rule that has anything to do with nose height from one side to the other?

Ray has 13" max on rf.

[rcmaster]

Its all easy to fix via rules. Its all been hashed out on here to the inth degree.

The question still remains, do they want to slow the cars down that much and impact the racing and their product?

Always look at these things / rules as a product, are you impacting what your selling? if yes, you have to be careful. So there lies the question.

Personally, i could care less about rollovers, fires, safety in general. This is racing, and its not safe, you cant mandate to be so, so get over it. Although, the speed comes with a price, and currently the cars are costing more than the payouts, that's a surviveabillity problem in the long run. The various series needs to address.

Speed does not mean good racing, normally the faster the track the less racing theyre is, all the fans want to see is passing 80 mph or 180 mph , I don't know if this rule will help or hurt, and the higher that rear is when the nose digs in the quicker it is to roll.

[Hoosier_Dirt]

Speed does not mean good racing, normally the faster the track the less racing theyre is, all the fans want to see is passing 80 mph or 180 mph , I don't know if this rule will help or hurt, and the higher that rear is when the nose digs in the quicker it is to roll.

Very well said!! I like Steve Francis' quote. " Those street stock guys race like hell"

[fastford]

Its all easy to fix via rules. Its all been hashed out on here to the inth degree.

The question still remains, do they want to slow the cars down that much and impact the racing and their product?

Always look at these things / rules as a product, are you impacting what your selling? if yes, you have to be careful. So there lies the question.

Personally, i could care less about rollovers, fires, safety in general. This is racing, and its not safe, you cant mandate to be so, so get over it. Although, the speed comes with a price, and currently the cars are costing more than the payouts, that's a surviveabillity problem in the long run. The various series needs to address.

I agree 100% and if you dont believe it , then take a good look at NASCAR , also what are they eliminating that will reduce cost? To me , this will increase cost because some one will come up with a new gadget that will enhance this new set up and charge you out the wazoo or it.....

[hucktyson]

The less stuck to the track the cars are from aero the less power you can put down and the more you have to " wheel " . We need to unhook the cars and then guys won't need 900hp motors and cost 16,500 every 1000 laps ....

[Illtsate32]

The less stuck to the track the cars are from aero the less power you can put down and the more you have to " wheel " . We need to unhook the cars and then guys won't need 900hp motors and cost 16,500 every 1000 laps ....

Yes put the results back in the drivers hands...and feet...

[Highwayman]

I agree 100% and if you dont believe it , then take a good look at NASCAR , also what are they eliminating that will reduce cost? To me , this will increase cost because some one will come up with a new gadget that will enhance this new set up and charge you out the wazoo or it.....

It'll save money on chassis repair and replacement, fewer concussions.
Just because someone offers to sell you snake oil doesn't mean you have to buy it.

The less stuck to the track the cars are from aero the less power you can put down and the more you have to " wheel " . We need to unhook the cars and then guys won't need 900hp motors and cost 16,500 every 1000 laps ....

Truer words have never been spoken.

[JimBo]

Just move the (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) shock and spring back in front of the LR. Doesn't cost anyone a dime.

This is the best idea of all. But it is too simple for most to comprehend or considered "going backwards".

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

This is the best idea of all. But it is too simple for most to comprehend or considered "going backwards".

It doesn't change the car. This is easy to beat.

[fastford]

if you are wanting to eliminate the expensive high HP engines , then stop digging up the tracks , splash a little water on it and go. people have been complaining about expensive engines for ever , even when the cars were like there wanting them to be now. you are either gone have a spec class or you are gone have super late models , and to me , as far as supers go , the less rules the better , if you want to run under a bunch of rules , then go crate or limited racing .

[hucktyson]

So if you take a 50k xr 1 , buy a 55k ford , and spend another 10k on plumbing tranny etc you are now driving a crate motor cadet if it's only allowed to hike 47.5 ??? If speed if the objective go drag racing. Let's say keeping the deck as much as 10" lower on some cars causes a 10mph drop in top speed, for the record I bet it's more at a place like Pittsburgh when it's slick and you hit a hole with a car lower to the ground going slower you think it's not less dangerous than hitting a hole in a car that's higher going faster ?? Eldora got rid of grooving and siping and it was supposed to be the end of the world except the cRs went as fast or faster because they came back hiked several inches higher !!! The faster a car goes the harder it is on motors and the harder it hits when it wrecks .... those are undeniable truths. 55k motors that cost 16,500 every 1000 laps are retarded when the vast majority of racers are taking home less than 1k each night they race ... minus fuel , tires , hauler fuel , pit passes , wear on the car and 800 plus in motor wear in 1 effing night !! I get racing is expensive but tracks can't afford to pay more and back in the 80's we got rid of wedge cars for a reason and here we are in 2017 and wedge cars are back only with 250 more hp and much better suspensions .... This rule costs virtually nothing except for the toss offs who will spend another 20k to have an engineer come hold their schmed during a test session to max out the new rule ...

[hucktyson]

There's plenty of daddy's money boys out there who can barely go in a straight line with an XR1 hiked to the moon fully assembled and set up at rocket that's glued to the track lol I can't wait to see what happens when the crutches are removed and they have to drive the car

[Illtsate32]

I seen Morans new xr1 on facebook last week just the interior and deck in it..no exaggeration its an absolute wedge from the lr tire to the spoiler 6-8 inches of rake at least...looks like a ski slope..completely out of hand but apparently they are not worried about any rule..them spoilers will be head high in 2018 if nothing is done...

[fastford]

So if you take a 50k xr 1 , buy a 55k ford , and spend another 10k on plumbing tranny etc you are now driving a crate motor cadet if it's only allowed to hike 47.5 ??? If speed if the objective go drag racing. Let's say keeping the deck as much as 10" lower on some cars causes a 10mph drop in top speed, for the record I bet it's more at a place like Pittsburgh when it's slick and you hit a hole with a car lower to the ground going slower you think it's not less dangerous than hitting a hole in a car that's higher going faster ?? Eldora got rid of grooving and siping and it was supposed to be the end of the world except the cRs went as fast or faster because they came back hiked several inches higher !!! The faster a car goes the harder it is on motors and the harder it hits when it wrecks .... those are undeniable truths. 55k motors that cost 16,500 every 1000 laps are retarded when the vast majority of racers are taking home less than 1k each night they race ... minus fuel , tires , hauler fuel , pit passes , wear on the car and 800 plus in motor wear in 1 effing night !! I get racing is expensive but tracks can't afford to pay more and back in the 80's we got rid of wedge cars for a reason and here we are in 2017 and wedge cars are back only with 250 more hp and much better suspensions .... This rule costs virtually nothing except for the toss offs who will spend another 20k to have an engineer come hold their schmed during a test session to max out the new rule ...

well he!! huck , why are you and me even attempting to do this , lets just quit now , because this rule is not gone stop the spending of a lot of money , so if all that money is beyond a doubt gone win all the races , then were just p!ssing in the wind any way............