New droop rule

[#FALSuperman]

Here's link to the article... https://racingnews.co/2018/01/21/ray...mpression=true

[petesbuyin]

"I think I had three cars turn over this past year. Out of 30 races, that’s what? 1%? That ain’t like it’s a huge amount."
Ray Cook


And this is the guy that is making the rules? Guys like this making rules is way harmful to the sport than anything going on with the cars.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Ray is as qualified or more than the bozos involved in the Rumley rules.

[dirtcrazy4u]

Rumley rules ? Banned, Illegal, I don't get why your saying those involved ? It was pretty much open rule book, close rule book.

[crownman25]

what ray is trying to do is GREAT.First making older cars be competative so everyone doesn't have to guy buy a new $50,000 race car,2 trying to keep from getting someone injured.What about the car that turned over and burnt a guy up?Sure only 1 car turned over but any of them can catch on fire...The next step needs to be a suspension rule 1 spring per corner no bumps no rubbers ,no dual stage technology has gotten out of control ,lets face it the reason sat night guys cant cxompete its because set ups are so complex and lots of testing spent on them sat night racer has to work everyday he cant go test. if nascar can tell teams what springs they can use so can dirt series,I would like to see winner have to pull his shocks springs off after the race remove covers place on a table and let them be looked at and inspected by anyone nascar does this...

[CarolinaDirt]

It isn't going to matter unless every sanctioned series adopts the same rules . If anything by him doing this alone he has alienated his series from the big name drivers he needs to promote his races. I like Ray but unless everyone is on board this is only gonna harm not help his series.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Rumley rules ? Banned, Illegal, I don't get why your saying those involved ? It was pretty much open rule book, close rule book.

I think you are perhaps unaware.

[Matt49]

The more this sport ends up with essentially different classes due to rules packages being so different from one another, the more you are going to see car counts go DOWN. The last time the sport had a real surge in car counts was when Memmer made basically every race track use the same rules. A guy could take a car and hit the road and race at just about any track with the same race car. And what is happening with the crates is making it worse because so many people want to dumb that down to a street stock. If a guy has an open late model and blows the motor he should be able to drop a crate motor in and go racing in that class. But that isn't the case because all of these crate sanctions have made anything they don't understand illegal in the name of cost savings. Their car counts are going to continue dropping as a result.
What this sport needs is ONE RULES PACKAGE for the cars and keep a crate late model just that. A late model CAR with a crate motor in it. I understand there are going to be different tire rules at different tracks but I shouldn't have to bolt on a totally different suspension package to be legal from one track to another.
And keep the NASCAR mentality out. WAY the hell out! NASCAR cup series cars are glorified street stocks racing for millions of dollars. If you want to spend millions on engineering to win millions, NASCAR is for you.

And for the record, every time someone says, "the technology has gotten out of control", I hear, "I'm not smart enough to figure this out." Am I getting beat by guys that are spending more on "technology"? Absolutely. But instead of complaining about it, I try to figure out ways that I can (as cost-effectively as possible) get up to speed on what I need to stay on top of things. Am I the only racer that thinks like this anymore??? If you can't keep up with the advancements in the class you're racing and don't like it, consider changing classes before demanding that your class change the rules to cater to your lack of desire to learn new things. I'm tired of it. Rant over.

[Illtsate32]

Its a very small percentage of people developing the technology compared to everybody in dirt latemodel racing..as for people needing to "get smart" and figure out a way to compete...well I dont know Ray Cook and Steve Francis personally but id be comfortable saying im pretty sure they are fairly knowledgeable... and they are tired of technology getting out of control..they are tired of it...tired of getting beat by a guy who cant drive a hot nail in a snow bank but has a $110,000 car that is glued to the racetrack...

[Bubstr]

The more this sport ends up with essentially different classes due to rules packages being so different from one another, the more you are going to see car counts go DOWN. The last time the sport had a real surge in car counts was when Memmer made basically every race track use the same rules. A guy could take a car and hit the road and race at just about any track with the same race car. And what is happening with the crates is making it worse because so many people want to dumb that down to a street stock. If a guy has an open late model and blows the motor he should be able to drop a crate motor in and go racing in that class. But that isn't the case because all of these crate sanctions have made anything they don't understand illegal in the name of cost savings. Their car counts are going to continue dropping as a result.
What this sport needs is ONE RULES PACKAGE for the cars and keep a crate late model just that. A late model CAR with a crate motor in it. I understand there are going to be different tire rules at different tracks but I shouldn't have to bolt on a totally different suspension package to be legal from one track to another.
And keep the NASCAR mentality out. WAY the hell out! NASCAR cup series cars are glorified street stocks racing for millions of dollars. If you want to spend millions on engineering to win millions, NASCAR is for you.

And for the record, every time someone says, "the technology has gotten out of control", I hear, "I'm not smart enough to figure this out." Am I getting beat by guys that are spending more on "technology"? Absolutely. But instead of complaining about it, I try to figure out ways that I can (as cost-effectively as possible) get up to speed on what I need to stay on top of things. Am I the only racer that thinks like this anymore??? If you can't keep up with the advancements in the class you're racing and don't like it, consider changing classes before demanding that your class change the rules to cater to your lack of desire to learn new things. I'm tired of it. Rant over.

X2, Matt hit it out of the park here. One rule, same enforcement everywhere and less classes. There are a lot more smart racers than some people think. Then you do see a lot of local racers, that aren't smart enough to know, what tech to buy and are talked into anything. Some are no better than the people on 4m arguing about what engine or chassis is best. If it wins for you, it is best for you. Last I checked, just about all of them, have won for someone.

[DEKconsulting]

Hey does everyone think this brings older cars back into the game i understand if u dont want to work on ur car but with a little bit of inenuity and work u can make a 2012 car droop or risse up in the air just like the newer cars. Done people just dont like to work just dip into the ole pockets and buy speed

[grt74]

it wasn't very long ago we were killing guys with a 2002 grt, we had to use the hot wrench and updated it ourselves but we were up front, and it pissed off alot of people off that spent some serious money, guys a plumb bob, angle finder, and a tape measure will do wonders, then find a shock guy that will work with you !!! and listen to you, but have enough of an understanding of shocks yourself, so you can then look at what you have been running and where to have your shocks changed
and i agree with matt, if your not wanting to work on your car or look for speed, late models are not for you, as far as crates they have gotten way out of hand, no sense in even having that class anymore, 1/2 will go to supers the other half will go to open wheels and there is nothing wrong with that, its still racing

let the beatings begin

[Clayton_Wetter]

Gotta believe the "droop rule" will just go away fairly quick. Since nobody else is talking this rule. At least we don't hear about it.

[CarolinaDirt]

If Ray is still offering money to win his races, then whomever wants it will show up and make the "MINOR" adjustments to compete. Only some neckless goober would pout and leave over this small change.

You mean like his series champion Brandon Overton, how about Donald Macintosh that is now running Lucas or Mike Marlar that is running WOO.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

You mean like his series champion Brandon Overton, how about Donald Macintosh that is now running Lucas or Mike Marlar that is running WOO.

I have only heard the argument that one of those is gone due to the rule. And who really knows?