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  • jensenracing18
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 200

    #16
    Might get to a million might not but I applaud cody for trying to be innovative and grow the sport.. don't like it Don't donate.. or just stay home I'm sure the stands will be full with or without you, the $50,000 kick in by Arizona just made this one of the highest guaranteed purses in the country, no matter what else happens it's all gravy, I honestly don't see what could go wrong with this event besides track conditions..should be a big show and I'll be there
    "Running the bottom is like having a job!" ~ Jack Hewitt

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    • #FALSuperman
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2015
      • 2128

      #17
      $125,000 to win. Here's the link.... http://www.mansfieldmotorspeedway.com/2_28_18/

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      • MasterSbilt_Racer
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 14324

        #18
        Originally posted by HoosierDirtFan View Post
        I agree. Some times a big idea is mind boggling for some.
        We all understand perfectly. Call it the go fund me 100 and it's cool. I went to the Eldora Million. No gimmick. Moran knew what the check was going to say.
        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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        • Clayton_Wetter
          Banned
          • May 2007
          • 16671

          #19
          Originally posted by jensenracing18 View Post
          Might get to a million might not but I applaud cody for trying to be innovative and grow the sport.. don't like it Don't donate.. or just stay home I'm sure the stands will be full with or without you, the $50,000 kick in by Arizona just made this one of the highest guaranteed purses in the country, no matter what else happens it's all gravy, I honestly don't see what could go wrong with this event besides track conditions..should be a big show and I'll be there
          Besides track conditions??? There had better be some very good track conditions for this race or it will leave a bitter taste to all humanity!!! hahahahaaaa

          I'll make out my IOU right now!!!
          Last edited by Clayton_Wetter; 02-28-2018, 07:53 PM.

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          • MMLLC
            Member
            • Feb 2018
            • 36

            #20
            The schtick is the minimum is $100k to win but here's where I get lost. If the money from suits, ticket sales, merch, etc increases the payout to $250k etc...how are they paying for the original $100k to win? Where is that money coming from? Is it all coming from sponsorships? It can't and the entry fee won't cover all of it either.It's also a "play" that Arizona gives a $100k to the event. Why? Because the kicker is all shirts sold will be Arizona. So are they really investing $100k? No, because they will be recouping money from merch sales. Quick math.....$100,000/$30 shirt = 3,333 shirts. Lastly, the social media aspect of earning points by posting and sharing Dirt Million info is going to turn drivers social media feeds into spamfest....and it will cause them to lose a lot of followers because of it....and that HURTS the drivers in the end. So is the event really in the best interest of the drivers? Or is this just using drivers and their social media accounts as free marketing for the event and prays that it is a huge success.

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            • GEAR_HEAD
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 3107

              #21
              Originally posted by MMLLC View Post
              The schtick is the minimum is $100k to win but here's where I get lost. If the money from suits, ticket sales, merch, etc increases the payout to $250k etc...how are they paying for the original $100k to win? Where is that money coming from? Is it all coming from sponsorships? It can't and the entry fee won't cover all of it either.It's also a "play" that Arizona gives a $100k to the event. Why? Because the kicker is all shirts sold will be Arizona. So are they really investing $100k? No, because they will be recouping money from merch sales. Quick math.....$100,000/$30 shirt = 3,333 shirts. Lastly, the social media aspect of earning points by posting and sharing Dirt Million info is going to turn drivers social media feeds into spamfest....and it will cause them to lose a lot of followers because of it....and that HURTS the drivers in the end. So is the event really in the best interest of the drivers? Or is this just using drivers and their social media accounts as free marketing for the event and prays that it is a huge success.
              Wow, you have no idea how businesses work, do you? Purse money comes from ticket sales, concession sales, apparel sales, etc. That's how every racetrack works. This is such a simple concept, and even though it shouldn't, it does surprise me that people can't wrap their heads around it. Since when do we expect promoters to lose money on these events? That's a typical liberal mindset. And even though how if effects the drivers really doesn't concern most of the people on here, apparently they're OK with it since they all have it on their schedules.

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              • mskdorf
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 842

                #22
                It’s refreshing to see someone try something different and out of the box. I sure hope it’s a success.
                Scott Kleindorfer

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                • MasterSbilt_Racer
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 14324

                  #23
                  Originally posted by GEAR_HEAD View Post
                  Wow, you have no idea how businesses work, do you? Purse money comes from ticket sales, concession sales, apparel sales, etc. That's how every racetrack works. This is such a simple concept, and even though it shouldn't, it does surprise me that people can't wrap their heads around it. Since when do we expect promoters to lose money on these events? That's a typical liberal mindset. And even though how if effects the drivers really doesn't concern most of the people on here, apparently they're OK with it since they all have it on their schedules.
                  I know how business and race promotion work. When a promotion gives a payout based on car count, it is frowned upon. This is really no different. Just more complex.
                  Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                  • GEAR_HEAD
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 3107

                    #24
                    Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                    I know how business and race promotion work. When a promotion gives a payout based on car count, it is frowned upon. This is really no different. Just more complex.
                    The guaranteed purse isn't based on car count, so you're point is moot. Even if no additional funds were raised what's wrong with a $200k purse?

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                    • MasterSbilt_Racer
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 14324

                      #25
                      Originally posted by GEAR_HEAD View Post
                      The guaranteed purse isn't based on car count, so you're point is moot. Even if no additional funds were raised what's wrong with a $200k purse?
                      It's the same as a $2k to win That says based on 20 cars in fine print with $500 gauranteed.
                      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                      • flagone
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 2861

                        #26
                        This discussion is about the race that now pays more to win than any other in DLM racing right? And 2nd most ever?

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                        • GEAR_HEAD
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 3107

                          #27
                          Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                          It's the same as a $2k to win That says based on 20 cars in fine print with $500 gauranteed.
                          No, no it's not. A guaranteed $200k purse is not the same as a $2k to win purse. You seem to really struggle with numbers.
                          Last edited by GEAR_HEAD; 02-28-2018, 10:10 PM.

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                          • TBSprintFan
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2016
                            • 616

                            #28
                            Cedar Lake has had the Fans Fund (through donations and sponsors) for quite a few years which pays for some drivers to come up for the Nationals which has been a success, I do not see no harm for this promoter to try something like what he is doing, if it works that is great and if it does not, well at least he tried. But I don't see the need for all the negativity for it already, if you don't like the idea, don't go.

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                            • jensenracing18
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 200

                              #29
                              I know I would be upset if I was expecting $125,000 to win and that big check ended up being $250,000 instead
                              "Running the bottom is like having a job!" ~ Jack Hewitt

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                              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 14324

                                #30
                                Originally posted by GEAR_HEAD View Post
                                No, no it's not. A guaranteed $200k purse is not the same as a $2k to win purse. You seem to really struggle with numbers.
                                You seem to struggle with conceptual arguments. If its a big deal. Be honest and transparent about what it is.

                                I don't believe misleading is ok just cause you pay out big money. Why not call it the dirt billion?
                                Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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