7 super late models at Farmer City

[rickybrown1952]

I would pay 23 dollars but a lot of people wouldn't

[kidrock]

Myself I would like to see Lincoln, Macon and Spoon River that way you have a variety of tracks. 1/4, 1/5 and 3/8. Lincoln on Friday night, Macon on Saturday night and Spoon River on Sunday night.

[CageFaraday]

Below is an add to sell a used engine of a local weekly dirt track racer. If this is what a used engine is going for, then what does a new one cost? Add the cost of everything else on the car and you're probably talking about 60 to 80k for a local racer plus the weekly cost of running. I don't see how local racers could afford to do this.

430 13/11 degree pro prower standard bore. Have had motor for 2 years bought brand new from pro power. It only has right under 200 laps on it since fresh. Won Florence Speedway a few weeks ago. And won Florence Speedway championship. $20,000 FIRM. Also can still hear motor run in car. We will run it until sold!

A New "wide" bore engine is somewhere between $45 - $50K from a major builder and they cost more to rebuild and require more frequent rebuilds than the engine you listed. I propose, instead of just saying this engine or that engine is illegal or making everyone run the same engine, which is dull. I recommend adopting/enforcing rules that unhook the cars(less down force and less mechanical grip). If you make it where they can't hook up 900HP then the cost will take care of itself. I'm in favor of a free market approach as opposed to the "socialistic" crate approach. This way engine builders stay in business, car builders stay in business, but the power needed is much less and a smart racer can afford to participate. Now its true the cars won't be as fast as they are right now, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. If terminal speed was all the fans wanted then tracks would be getting bigger and bigger, but they aren't. Most of the best races you'll see are on either smaller tracks and/or slicker tracks, so top speed isn't the draw in my view. JMO

[Highside Hustler25]

I propose, instead of just saying this engine or that engine is illegal or making everyone run the same engine, which is dull. I recommend adopting/enforcing rules that unhook the cars(less down force and less mechanical grip). If you make it where they can't hook up 900HP then the cost will take care of itself. I'm in favor of a free market approach as opposed to the "socialistic" crate approach. This way engine builders stay in business, car builders stay in business, but the power needed is much less and a smart racer can afford to participate.

Probably the best solution to the problem right here but will they ever do it before it's to late?

[Cardirt0]

Probably the best solution to the problem right here but will they ever do it before it's to late?

NO........

[dmr37]

Myself I would like to see Lincoln, Macon and Spoon River that way you have a variety of tracks. 1/4, 1/5 and 3/8. Lincoln on Friday night, Macon on Saturday night and Spoon River on Sunday night.

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[rickybrown1952]

Their is no doubt dirt racing is hurting Especially Late models because of several reasons. Of course because of high costs another reason this generation coming up is not interested in racing especially dirt racing.they are interested in their video games so later the count of drivers and fans going way down.the crowds are down now at most tracks.I think they need to eventually get the costs way down.I understand that would take quite a while but something needs to be done somehow.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

MB who can really afford run supers. You should know the full price tag run one a full season.

It depends when and how you run. Pick your tracks right, that 434 18 degree engine some guy is giving away can win you races on small and slick tracks.

[golddirt]

Crap I used to go to at least three races a week, I have been to 2 this year. Why you say? The racing is pretty lame anymore as is the car counts so they are not holding my attention.

[grt74]

I'd rather have 19 in one class.

smart man and i agree, its split up to much one class of lates supers, there are 4 classes of late models now in east tn

[kidrock]

You cant just blame creates and limited. The real reason

1. Its the cost of getting one and up keep.
2. Payout for weekly shows are way to low on the bottom end.
3.promoters and promoting
4. Track owners/prepping

5. The people, you raise the weekly price people start crying, But yet they want supers weekly for $10-20 per adult, $5 for kids get in gate. Ass hole people at tracks. People left tracks don't return because of them. Not getting new people to come but that falls under promoters and track.

6. Finding enough sponsors to piss money away on it.

You talking about 7 super, wait until you only have 7 limited or creates showing up. What are you going blame it on then. How people talk down on create and limited every track should have 20-40 weekly. Wait there not, because people can't really afford that any more as well. It feaking cost 30k to run against top super stocks. Sorry creates not the problem, the problem started before that no one wanted do anything about then, no one doing anything about it now. I think so laugh able hear a national team cry about how much it costs when they are the ones push the price tag up.

Pretty much sums it up right there.

[Cardirt0]

Pretty much sums it up right there.

When Pros are the only ones who can afford too buy one only pros will race one. Its not the class, its how much. they are all costing to much now. Mods are way down at a lot of tracks cause some will spend 30 grand on one and most cant. When the little guy has NO chance to win they will stop racing.

[Mcklovin85..]

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and the big ten series has the payout of the 4 cylinder class from 5th place on back.....

[chathamracefan]

I am by no means a tech guy, but just wonder if a good start would be to get rid of the front nose piece that is not a part of the body. The front flares that come up over the wheels have to be adding a lot of aero. Go back to the front end being a continuous part of the body with no nose piece bolted on. That and chopping the spoiler some would seem a relatively cheap place to start solving some of these problems. By no means would those things solve all, just may get things going in a better direction.

[Mike]

Been that way here in Georgia and the Carolinas for more than a decade. Limited is hanging by a thread here and 604 crates are giving way to 602 crates(which I loathe). They've let the rules get way out of hand for way too long and so now we are here. All the fans see are crazy fast cars, but don't realize the costs involved to do all that, in money, in time and in specialized equipment. Things were better, in my view, after the NDRA died, but before Hav A Tampa got going. The rules were decentralized so guys stayed more to their own region and the competition was less concentrated so an average guy could still run and hope to do ok. During those years we got 220+ cars to the World 100 every year. I won't waste my time arguing it anymore with anybody, but I believe rolling back some rules and changing a few things could make late models viable again, but as long as you can hook up 900 HP, money will rule the day. The wedge nearly killed the sport before, today's cars are pretty much Wedge 2.0. I am sorry to hear about any tracks closing, its hard to get them back once their gone in our current regulatory environment.

Myself and a few others were complaining (a few) years ago, the direction late models were heading. We seen the writing on the wall. I started calling them the #ModernDayWedge a couple years ago. More people have started noticing lately but is it too late? Also It really doesn’t matter unless the people in position to make changes start noticing. Those people are blind to the fact once the class is dead as a “weekly” class it’s going to affect their product.