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  • dirty-white-boy
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 997

    #1

    Weiss (illegal car) transparancy

    So here is my issue. Where is the statement from WRC saying EXACTLY what the issue was and why it was "ok" in June but not now. Was this kid used to make an example of? Is there more to the story that is not being told?

    I can scroll thru pages of keyboard jockeys here that think they have all the answers but they really do not.

    If it was INDEED the same car as the Dream why was it ok then and not now? If was INDEED the same car that won North/South and big money at Rt 80 then why was it ok then?

    Transparency is key in situation like this. Where is Francis's side? Where is Drigger's side? If it was INDEED Bronson/Richards that said something where is their side of the story? (In NHRA this year Chris McGaha protested Enders and Jeg and owned up to doing it)
  • NormP
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 2262

    #2
    If I was Francis I wouldn't have a "side." He's not a WRG employee so he's under no obligation to issue a statement on a WRG matter.
    Last edited by NormP; 09-11-2018, 04:02 PM.

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    • Doc88D
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 170

      #3
      I don't think that they owe an explanation to anyone but Ricky Weiss. This isn't the government that is funded by American tax dollars. This is a private company that operates with its own money. Race fans pay for a ticket to see the show. If there was no show, well that would demand an explanation. The fact that one competitor had a rule infraction and was not allowed to race, would only demand the statement that was made...
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      • MI Dirt Fan
        Banned
        • May 2007
        • 8806

        #4
        Because Rocket/Bronson didn't know about it in June to tip them off so they didn't look

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        • TBSprintFan
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2016
          • 614

          #5
          Originally posted by dirty-white-boy View Post
          So here is my issue. Where is the statement from WRC saying EXACTLY what the issue was and why it was "ok" in June but not now. Was this kid used to make an example of? Is there more to the story that is not being told?

          I can scroll thru pages of keyboard jockeys here that think they have all the answers but they really do not.

          If it was INDEED the same car as the Dream why was it ok then and not now? If was INDEED the same car that won North/South and big money at Rt 80 then why was it ok then?

          Transparency is key in situation like this. Where is Francis's side? Where is Drigger's side? If it was INDEED Bronson/Richards that said something where is their side of the story? (In NHRA this year Chris McGaha protested Enders and Jeg and owned up to doing it)
          Where is Sweet Bloomquist racecars side of the story of why one of the cars they made illegal? If it was Bronson and Richards that snitched, why didn't Weiss or even Bloomquist or both, confront them about it?

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          • Josh Bayko
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 8749

            #6
            Because the only thing that is an absolute fact is that Weiss wasn’t legal. All he other b.s. is conjecture.
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            • joshroth14
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 383

              #7
              Who cares? If the car was fount illegal in June or September? The facts are the car was illegal. Whether it was Bronson being jealous of his success or Richards trying to get at Scott doesnt matter. The only thing that matters is the car was illegal and now it will be fixed.

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              • PRCKartRacer9
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2017
                • 368

                #8
                Say Doug Drowns car had an illegal bar on it. Would it still be someone else's fault for pointing it out? Or is this whoke ordeal being blown out of proportion because of the parties involved and all of the hear say? Only a select few know why the bar was the size it was and only a select few know how they found it. We as spectators aren't owed anything other than the races we pay to watch. We don't carry some special privledge to know what goes on behind closed doors. Never have. Never will.

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                • GEAR_HEAD
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 3107

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dirty-white-boy View Post
                  So here is my issue. Where is the statement from WRC saying EXACTLY what the issue was and why it was "ok" in June but not now. Was this kid used to make an example of? Is there more to the story that is not being told?

                  I can scroll thru pages of keyboard jockeys here that think they have all the answers but they really do not.

                  If it was INDEED the same car as the Dream why was it ok then and not now? If was INDEED the same car that won North/South and big money at Rt 80 then why was it ok then?

                  Transparency is key in situation like this. Where is Francis's side? Where is Drigger's side? If it was INDEED Bronson/Richards that said something where is their side of the story? (In NHRA this year Chris McGaha protested Enders and Jeg and owned up to doing it)
                  Explain to me why Francis has to say anything about something he wasn't involved in!

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                  • CageFaraday
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 685

                    #10
                    Originally posted by NormP View Post
                    If I was Francis I wouldn't have a "side." He's not a WRG employee so he's under no obligation to issue a statement on a WRG matter.
                    Is Francis no longer the WRG tech inspector? If he is wouldn't that make him an employee?

                    Originally posted by Doc88D View Post
                    I don't think that they owe an explanation to anyone but Ricky Weiss. This isn't the government that is funded by American tax dollars. This is a private company that operates with its own money. Race fans pay for a ticket to see the show. If there was no show, well that would demand an explanation. The fact that one competitor had a rule infraction and was not allowed to race, would only demand the statement that was made...
                    Your right, people on here tend to confuse the other worldly political non-sense in Washington and elsewhere with ow the rest of reality goes. It doesn't.

                    Originally posted by MI Dirt Fan View Post
                    Because Rocket/Bronson didn't know about it in June to tip them off so they didn't look
                    I've heard it was a door bar diameter, which if true is pretty pathetic on Bronson's part and understandable on how it was missed during inspection. Nobody ever won a race because of a door bar. Ever. Obviously NOT motivated by concern for anyone's safety or a performance advantage, just an attempt to take Bloomer off the board for the World, only he missed and got Weiss. In this situation I'd have no issue with a warning to get it fixed ASAP, not to throw him out, this isn't Nascar...
                    “Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.” — The Dude

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                    • fastford
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 4059

                      #11
                      your last statement is well said and exactly the way i feel cagefaraday , there is no advantage as far as performance is concerned , give them a stern warning , fix it and continue on.....jmo.....

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                      • Mams
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 885

                        #12
                        Francis is employed by Lucas Oil Late Model Series. He has nothing to do with WRG whatsoever.
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                        • Kwd1253
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 2262

                          #13
                          Francis problem glanced at the bar not paying to much attention. Because (a) it looks about the same size as 1 1/2 (b) Steve know this not cheating for speed just a safety deal. Yes, this was a setup to catch Bloomquist on something to not let him run world 100. Yes, Bronson is douche for doing that. Yes, it was against safety rules. Move on, there other thread started about this why make a new one for.

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                          • billetbirdcage
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 2020

                            #14
                            I can't say this is true, but the word was that Scott had been warned about the bars (by Eldora) being small in the past and they he needed to fix them. Thus he did on the newer cars (17 and 18 cars) and basically since Weiss had an older 16 car he got caught in the crossfire so to speak.

                            It was also said the Weiss was allowed to race, but was gonna incur a weight penalty for the infraction and chose to load up instead of switching cars or adding whatever weight penalty they decided.

                            Again can't say that is 100%, but it makes sense.

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                            • Stefan2k4
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2018
                              • 266

                              #15
                              I don't think that they owe an explanation to anyone but Ricky Weiss. This isn't the government that is funded by American tax dollars. This is a private company that operates with its own money.
                              This is true. They certainly don't owe fans an explanation and if they choose not to offer a statement they're certainly within their rights. However, for the sake of PR and to avoid a lot of speculation, rumors, and misinformation that could arise as result of that, it might be a lot smarter to issue a statement and explain the circumstances and situation surrounding the disqualification. Otherwise, they wind up looking like they may have something to hide here, like perhaps they were specially targeting certain teams. Of course, it could also be that if they did release more details and information, that might only hurt them and make them look worse, because perhaps they were trying to specifically target someone. Anyway, the choice is theirs. However, they have to know that keeping it under wraps is going to fuel rumors and speculation that something fishy was going on.

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