Originally posted by hucktyson
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Bobby Pierce on twitter - HELP Cost Limit engine size to 415 - 420. Link.
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People just love to hate on Bobby for whatever reason, same with people on here with Scott and JD. They're the 3 most popular drivers on 4m. Bobby can flat out wheel a race car, he can make a bad car look good. The uneducated people seem to think he isn't very good or can only run the cushion, but like you said he still has as much tire as anyone and drives harder than 99 percent of DLM drivers. If he was as good with setup as Scott, the DLM world would be in trouble.
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Ya honestly forget an engine rule, enforce some kind of shock and spring rule so they cant run this setup where the car is sealed to the ground and its got buku traction. When 900hp will hinder you more than help you in the A main, the problem wiil fix itself...now idk what rules that should exactly be, but thats the area that needs to be adressed imo...
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Would something as simple as a carburator size limit work? After the fuel stop at Kville I was thinking why can't we go 100 laps there anymore without running out of fuel?
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They only started calling them Super Late Models (atleast in my neck of the woods) in the mid 2000's when they watered the Late Model class down with crates and steel blocks.Originally posted by Mod Runner View PostNo way do I want to see an engine cubic inch limit. They are called Super Late Models for a reason. No Neutered Late Models for me !
It'll still be the top class of late models, and still be an open motor even with a CI rule, because you can legally open them up and tune, and design/build them how you see fit to make up the max CI.
I personally think unlimited CI is an absurd thing to chase, and there should have been a limit a long time ago.
Now I don't know how you tech 'em. How do they tech the Sprint cars that are in 360 and 410 classes?Last edited by brsteg; 09-18-2018, 10:31 AM."The Wise One"
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DLM in 2000 didn't look like street cars either. Your neighbor probably hasn't been exposed to much dirt racing. Most people I run into around here don't know that people even still race at local tracks.Originally posted by Krooser View PostGo back to 2000-ish bodies, 12" spoiler and cheap shocks.
My neighbor a look at my stuff and honestly don't know what they are looking at... When I tell them it's a DLM I get a blank stare... Never heard of them. Get it back to where the public can ID that it's a car and we have a chance if getting new fans.
The big problem with racing isn't car specs....it's getting fans in the stands. We also look at the wrong thing...
I think the late models look sexy today.
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Just like the good NASCAR Drivers say . Make the cars were we have to drive them once more. (Speck frames, Speck body's Cut costs by 50%), Put a 2-in high by 2 foot opening on the bottom middle of the Splinter. Air under the car Get rid of the Airo, Now the car can not be run flat out, You have power to pass.. Costs go way down in NASCAR. Bobby Just saying something needs to be done and hes RIGHT.Last edited by Cardirt0; 09-18-2018, 11:11 AM.
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Engines and performance don’t appeal to anyone anymore because if your headlamp in your car goes out today you have to take the wheel off, the wheel covers off, remove 16 other items to replace the bulb then put it back together so unless you have a lift in your garage you’re taking it in to the nearest shop. The average person has no knowledge of cars anymore so they aren’t going to just come to the track themselves.
The track owners need to do a better job of making the racetrack a cool place to go. It’s the #1 reason why a business survives... customers! Even racecar drivers need customers or fans to survive. The real issue isn’t the rules. Teams will always break those with something new. You have to get more fans if you want to keep up with the cost of the sport. Not sure why that is so hard everyone (except Krooser) to understand! These teams work their tails off to get an advantage over the next guy and win. Most track owners do not work their tail off to get fans and make money. Seems they just open the gates and expect everyone to show up.Last edited by waaac77; 09-18-2018, 12:00 PM.
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I tend to agree with this guy. Is Bobby saying that a 410 WoO sprint car motor costs less than a competitive DLM motor?Originally posted by bullring View PostTake away some traction through suspension and aero and you don't need 900 horsepower. But something needs to be done. Talent won't get you very far now compared to a big wad of money.
These tracks/series cant even enforce most of the simplest rules so how would they effectively enforce a CID rule?
I wanna see Cody run a big money race on the hardest tires Hoosier offers with 3 inch spoilers. Lets see who can really drive!
Call it the Hard Tire Hundred.
Cody are u listening?
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