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  • bleedblue55
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 1873

    #16
    Originally posted by AzDirtRacin3
    So, you don't like racing???? That what passing points do...Make them race instead of 2 qualifying laps & start the fastest cars up front. Suppose next you'll say they should all get trophys for attending the race weekend....GEE freaking whizz
    Said that I wasn't a fan. Different people like different formats. Don't really give a **** about what floats your boat

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    • MasterSbilt_Racer
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 14320

      #17
      Originally posted by bleedblue55 View Post
      I-80 might be on FB but you have to find someone sending the video. They don't advertise it, done by individuals. I did see all the lates and mod races, 7 heats, fast dash, a couple B-mains and 2 features. Mostly watched because race had a lot of drivers from my area. The Carpenters, Hawkins, Dohm, Montgomery. Might buy I-80 tonight, wasn't paying to watch heats. Not a fan of passing points, inverts, and dashes.
      Lucas passing points shows are to me, the best shows they do.
      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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      • MasterSbilt_Racer
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 14320

        #18
        Originally posted by AzDirtRacin3
        So, you don't like racing???? That what passing points do...Make them race instead of 2 qualifying laps & start the fastest cars up front. Suppose next you'll say they should all get trophys for attending the race weekend....GEE freaking whizz
        Calling the guy who set the fastest qualifying time "the fastest" is being to kind. Quite often, he was only the fastest on that track condition. He may have even been on the track at the right time.
        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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        • chupp n bloomer fan
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 11526

          #19
          Originally posted by AzDirtRacin3
          So, you don't like racing???? That what passing points do...Make them race instead of 2 qualifying laps & start the fastest cars up front. Suppose next you'll say they should all get trophys for attending the race weekend....GEE freaking whizz
          I truly love the conclusions some of you come too. “ I don’t like passing points”. Oh, so now you wanna give everyone a trophy do ya, lmao, wtf?

          Certain races, certain tracks, that format works.(passing points) Some, it does not. The track has to be something you can pass on to have passing points. And if someone doesn’t like it, they don’t. There’s luck involved with the passing points system a whole lot more than there is going out and setting a good time. And you earned your good lap, passing points, you may have a weak heat and start at the back and march to the front. Scoring big points. Just as you catch the track at the right time for your lap. But neither is more or less enabling.

          Now, if the track is good, I’m all for passing points, like I80.
          Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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          • waaac77
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2015
            • 629

            #20
            I like racing and hate passing points. Reason: I have to clue who’s qualified for what. If there’s 6 heats and top 3 in each heat get in, I know who’s in the show and who’s not.

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            • fryefan
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 3547

              #21
              The passing points, inverts, draw-redraw formats provide MUCH better racing (and it is not even close) than the freight-train, fast cars start on the front formats. I am lucky to live west of the Mississippi river and get to see a lot of good racing.

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              • d-glenn
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 4584

                #22
                Originally posted by zooker25 View Post
                I think a lot of people don't understand how it works!
                I don't understand the passing points myself, but I love it...I have seen great racing at the N/S.
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                See you down the road!!!!

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                • huskerdirt
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 5620

                  #23
                  Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
                  Im with ya on the passing point system, particularly the system that I80 is using!

                  I believe if you start on the front row and win you should get maximum points. I have seen some tracks do it this way!
                  The double heat passing point format is just your average finish of the two heat races.

                  Ziegler had a 1.5 average finish for 128 points. This system isn’t hard to understand if you got the basic math skills down. Winning a heat is (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) near a golden ticket to the A main.

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                  • #FALSuperman
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2015
                    • 2128

                    #24
                    It's more than your average finish. You gain and lose points for position gaines and losses.

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                    • huskerdirt
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 5620

                      #25
                      Originally posted by #FALSuperman View Post
                      It's more than your average finish. You gain and lose points for position gaines and losses.
                      ITS AVERAGE FINISH.

                      Yes, it’s called passing points. But if you actually look at with the double heat format. It’s just your average finish because of the two heats. Ziegler had the highest average so he started on pole. Moyer had 5.0 average despite a heat race win. That’s why he was in the B. He didn’t lose a spot at all Friday.... he just didn’t pass anybody.

                      And you don’t LOSE points if you fall back. You just get finishing points.

                      But please continue to educate me about a format you know nothing about.

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                      • #FALSuperman
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2015
                        • 2128

                        #26
                        Ok, you're right technically.
                        For example, you start in first and get say 10 points for finishing there (just an example of points). If you finish 3rd, you do LOSE points you had where you started.

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                        • #FALSuperman
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2015
                          • 2128

                          #27
                          Passing Points(PP)
                          Drivers receive PP based on how many spots they advance during their heat. Drivers receive 1.76 points per spot advanced from starting position to finishing position.

                          Finishing Points(FP)
                          Drivers receive FP based on their finishing order in their heat race. Heat winner receives 59 points. Second, receives 55. Third receives 51. And so on with a 4 point difference per position.

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                          • klemmabyna
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 2065

                            #28
                            JMO: if a track is racy, there is no better format than passing points. probably because I despise time trial and straight up starts. there needs to be more tracks that can provide a racing surface drivers can pass on.
                            And the days that I keep my gratitude higher than my expectations, well, I have really good days - Ray Wylie Hubbard

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