This guy gets it!

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Yep, your wife said she knew where the best JACKASSES lived at!

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[dmr37]

who remembers the thread on here about Oreo the Donkey?

[Josh Bayko]

Money doesn't always win, but it certainly helps. And it's easier to buy speed than it once was.

Buying speed has been taking place for 40+ years now.

[ImCryn2]

Buying speed has been taking place for 40+ years now.

True, but as MB racer pointed out, it's much easier to get good information and products today than it was 10-20-30 years ago.

[Rocky]

Unless your time is worth absolutely nothing even if you design and build everything yourself, you’re buying speed. My buddy told me once to re estimate what I had in my car, but pay myself $8 an hour.....

[Josh Bayko]

True, but as MB racer pointed out, it's much easier to get good information and products today than it was 10-20-30 years ago.

It really isn't. The only thing that's changed is the prices. They've gone up way more than normal inflation.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

It really isn't. The only thing that's changed is the prices. They've gone up way more than normal inflation.

20 years ago, all you got was a baseline setup and you went and raced. CJ Rayburn told you to eat at the hotdog stand and leave your car alone. If you were a newbie, you bought that car and took your lumps.

Now, you spend a bunch of money with a shock guy, a boutique chassis, and a data acquisition guy. All these people give you valuable information that it would have taken you years to learn on your own, if you were intelligent enough to figure it out to begin with.

The average guy took a new car out the first time and it was either way tight or way loose. Now, you spend your 50K and that thing is darn near perfect.

[fastford]

i thought that video was hilarious as h3ll , learned 2 things though , 1st , now we know why those crate engines are so cheap , there built in mexico , and 2nd , he dont mind screwing his friend over on that 400 deal telling him it was a 283 , glad i dont have friends like that , that i know of....lol....

[ImCryn2]

It really isn't. The only thing that's changed is the prices. They've gone up way more than normal inflation.

You're smarter than that! At least I've always thought you were. Racers used to have at least some basic mechanical knowledge, now EVERYTHING can be bought. You can literally have a top of the line racer in the garage ready to win races without even getting your hands dirty. I laugh anytime I hear a guy that's always all dolled up say he just finished building a new car.

[Barbecueboy]

You're smarter than that! At least I've always thought you were. Racers used to have at least some basic mechanical knowledge, now EVERYTHING can be bought. You can literally have a top of the line racer in the garage ready to win races without even getting your hands dirty. I laugh anytime I hear a guy that's always all dolled up say he just finished building a new car.

Do you actually race a car or crew for somebody that does??? I laugh every time I hear someone say you can buy wins and buy speed and bolt any driver in the car and get it.

Sure you can buy the parts , but you have to have the knowledge on how to use , install for maximum results and tune on them to fit the set up you want.

Not a slam on anyone but I'll offer up Blake Spencer as an example......guy has the best of everything you could possibly buy......very cool he is living his dream and I'm envious of the position he is in to be able to do it.....but the speed he has purchased ain't working.

Set up package isn't really a blanket you can throw over every driver and can't really be bought, you have to have someone with a little knowledge somewhere in the mix.

[ZERO25]

Do you actually race a car or crew for somebody that does??? I laugh every time I hear someone say you can buy wins and buy speed and bolt any driver in the car and get it.

Sure you can buy the parts , but you have to have the knowledge on how to use , install for maximum results and tune on them to fit the set up you want.

Not a slam on anyone but I'll offer up Blake Spencer as an example......guy has the best of everything you could possibly buy......very cool he is living his dream and I'm envious of the position he is in to be able to do it.....but the speed he has purchased ain't working.

Set up package isn't really a blanket you can throw over every driver and can't really be bought, you have to have someone with a little knowledge somewhere in the mix.

Blakey boy also has a rich girlfriend who is a part owner of a large Ford dealership that buys all those pieces needed for speed! Unfortunately, talent is not found in any Ford parts catalog!

For some reason, only known by God, they put their money behind a raw green driver and crewchief. Perhaps, with a veteran crewchief, their results would be better!No codemnnation from me, just LUCKY them!!!

[Josh Bayko]

20 years ago, all you got was a baseline setup and you went and raced. CJ Rayburn told you to eat at the hotdog stand and leave your car alone. If you were a newbie, you bought that car and took your lumps.

Now, you spend a bunch of money with a shock guy, a boutique chassis, and a data acquisition guy. All these people give you valuable information that it would have taken you years to learn on your own, if you were intelligent enough to figure it out to begin with.

The average guy took a new car out the first time and it was either way tight or way loose. Now, you spend your 50K and that thing is darn near perfect.

The baseline setups still aren't one size fits all. Being consistently fast is still largely trial and error until you get it right. You won't even be able to tell the shock guy what you want until you figure out what works for you in a particular car. No two driving styles are exactly alike, and that influences everything.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

The baseline setups still aren't one size fits all. Being consistently fast is still largely trial and error until you get it right. You won't even be able to tell the shock guy what you want until you figure out what works for you in a particular car. No two driving styles are exactly alike, and that influences everything.

That no 2 guys are alike argument only goes so far. And it isn't like they go from slinging it to creeping in the corner these days either. These cars are so well tuned you don't do much when they are right. Its whole new game. You don't tell that shock guy what you want. He can tell you. If he can't see it, he can bolt sensors on and let you know.

[mcarter815]

I have hands on experience with telemetry. It only tells you so much on dirt. There is a ton of noise you have to filter out because the surface is so rough, the cars are constantly in a hiked position which interferes with the accelerometers, and the suspensions just don't move that much. That means that you're looking at very minute changes and the track is constantly changing throughout a testing session so it's hard to know what is from the suspension change and what is from the track changing.

Also, it's more than just throwing a sensor on a car. It can take multiple hours to get a car wired up. We have a $7k kit that has sensors for four shocks, fifth coil, throttle, brake, steering, and g-forces. It can take two guys a full day to get everything hooked up and calibrated on a car.

[Rocky]

I got a friend with a brand new XR1, he runs in the back with me. He had a Jet street stock, wasn’t fast with it either. If you could buy a win, really, let me know so I can tell him. He’s got plenty of money.