Bobby Pierce Suspended for tire infraction at Volusia.

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  • stock car driver
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 3233

    #91
    I dont follow this stuff but saw a interview on fb.

    They tested 67 tires at V and 3 failed and they tested the B sample of each of those 3 which also failed, he claimed..

    So transference, bla bla bla is out.

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    • klemmabyna
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 2057

      #92
      Originally posted by 84wedge View Post
      Occams Razor.
      You may be right…
      And the days that I keep my gratitude higher than my expectations, well, I have really good days - Ray Wylie Hubbard

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      • lurker
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2017
        • 3190

        #93
        I don’t put much stock in these tire infractions penalties no matter who it is. Never have since day one, including the tire sniffer days. Mostly because the non-transparency when it comes to what was “wrong” with said tire. Any said tire “alteration” infraction penalty should be public knowledge in my opinion. And I don’t believe for one minute that one “benchmark” puck holds true for a “batch” of tires, that’s hogwash if you ask me.

        Occam's razor, yep!!!

        Honestly, I don’t believe said tire manufacture has a benchmark puck for every batch of tires made, for those numerous series that check the legality of said tires. Do you realize how many batches and pucks that would be for every tire, every compound, every series that check the legality of said tires. I don’t believe for one minute that a “lab facility” has that much warehouse storage space for benchmark pucks.

        Maybe a data benchmark set of chemistry figures for that specific compound, noting those data benchmark set of chemistry figures shouldn’t change from one batch to another.

        Also noting said “lab facility” also checks the legality of, fuel, oil, and tires. Benchmark warehouse storage space for samples for all of these? I call BS.

        Nonetheless, its all poppyc0ck.
        Last edited by lurker; 03-15-2024, 08:07 PM.

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        • TBSprintFan
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2016
          • 614

          #94
          Looks like Bobby's mommy removed her posts off of Facebook. Lol

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          • lurker
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2017
            • 3190

            #95
            That’s a shocker!!!

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            • dirtkart30
              Junior Member
              • Sep 2014
              • 21

              #96
              who was the vendor selling the tire dope at the dome? seems kinda odd

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              • Mod Runner
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 723

                #97
                I try to be careful when I add racing gas to my race car , but I have had the funnel slip out of the fuel cell , The result was the racing fuel ran through my rear deck lid and drenched my right rear tire . I tried to wipe the tire down as well as I could but I could not clean the gas out of the thread on the tire. With all the chemicals in racing gas , I bet my right rear tire would have failed the lab tests. As Bobby Pierce said , maybe he was innocent of using chemicals on his tire. Maybe racing gas actually spilled on his tire during refueling.

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                • Barbecueboy
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 18116

                  #98
                  Originally posted by TBSprintFan View Post
                  Looks like Bobby's mommy removed her posts off of Facebook. Lol
                  The woo tshirt bonfire had to be huge …….
                  Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                  • Barbecueboy
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 18116

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Mod Runner View Post
                    I try to be careful when I add racing gas to my race car , but I have had the funnel slip out of the fuel cell , The result was the racing fuel ran through my rear deck lid and drenched my right rear tire . I tried to wipe the tire down as well as I could but I could not clean the gas out of the thread on the tire. With all the chemicals in racing gas , I bet my right rear tire would have failed the lab tests. As Bobby Pierce said , maybe he was innocent of using chemicals on his tire. Maybe racing gas actually spilled on his tire during refueling.
                    That’s every bit as plausible as anything else floating around…..none of it really believable though.
                    Reference the 20k Scott Autry incident…..everyone makes mistakes.
                    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                    • lurker
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2017
                      • 3190

                      #100
                      Barbecueboy,

                      Plausible? Sure! Realistically? No! I realistically don’t believe its said tire failing some benchmark testing at some lab. I think the entire (from point A to point Z) testing process is flawed from a scientific standpoint. And again, NO ONE gets any transparency in the process of alteration, none at all, never.

                      Why did my tire fail? And why? NEVER gets answered.

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                      • stock car driver
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 3233

                        #101
                        Originally posted by Mod Runner View Post
                        I try to be careful when I add racing gas to my race car , but I have had the funnel slip out of the fuel cell , The result was the racing fuel ran through my rear deck lid and drenched my right rear tire . I tried to wipe the tire down as well as I could but I could not clean the gas out of the thread on the tire. With all the chemicals in racing gas , I bet my right rear tire would have failed the lab tests. As Bobby Pierce said , maybe he was innocent of using chemicals on his tire. Maybe racing gas actually spilled on his tire during refueling.
                        That would not absorb into the tire and be there after it heats up. Dope is a job to use, spray, wrap let sit, repeat.

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                        • Highside Hustler25
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 12919

                          #102
                          Fuel won't absorb into rubber? Lol whatever.
                          8/13/16

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                          • MasterSbilt_Racer
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 14310

                            #103
                            Lurker,

                            We don't know the pass/fail criteria or the reason they failed. It's also not owed to the general public. I'm sure every batch isn't 100% the same, but they may get double the leeway to make up for it. The type of test used flags compounds that don't belong. They are not getting popped for having 49% mass of a compound instead of 45%.
                            Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                            • stock car driver
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 3233

                              #104
                              Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View Post
                              Fuel won't absorb into rubber? Lol whatever.
                              I know your a idiot but I said it wont be there after a heat cycle. It wont absorb in just from spilling it to a depth to be there AFTER a race.

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                              • Highside Hustler25
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 12919

                                #105
                                I'm not gonna be name caller, lol but I have to disagree with your assessment.
                                8/13/16

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