89% of 2024 Lucas Oil wins from first two rows

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  • Josh Bayko
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 8737

    #16
    Originally posted by weatherman85 View Post
    Be curious to see what the percentages would be for late 80s early 90s series.
    I guarantee they would be the same.

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    • MIdlmfan
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2020
      • 174

      #17
      A lot of nights for a lot of tracks for Lucas oil you can look at the pill draw and know exactly what is going to transpire! A DoD writer on his game could almost have his/her articles written before the first heat race!

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      • Big Daddy 37
        Senior Member
        • May 2008
        • 251

        #18
        And....... Nearly every event is close to standing room only.

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        • Dirt Clod
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 517

          #19
          Thankfully, the USAC sprint car and midget series both invert the top 6 qualifiers. That at least provides for great racing in the heat races, with the fast qualifiers starting 6th. You must finish 5th or better to get your top six starting spot in the feature. Be interesting seeing the Lucas and WoO series try this concept. It will never happen.

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          • EvelB7
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2018
            • 882

            #20
            Really not that hard to fix, put a big chunk of the pay on positions gained and let the drivers determine where they would like to start. If you want $20,000 to win, you have to earn it; thought it was great when Charlotte did it back in the day and always wondered why no one else tried again. I realize it is the 'what is fair and truly sporting vs. entertaining the fans, two different mindsets. Personally think the Fair goes on every year during the late summer/fall-cotton candy, fried foods and ferris wheels; racing needs to be entertaining to entice people to come watch and unfortunately that means shaking the playing field up.

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            • raburke23
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 412

              #21
              The redraws kind of suck. I think they should just invert 4 in the heats, but award points for the Lucas regulars for qualifying, not just 10 bonus points. I also think if they have 16 Lucas guys, it should be 1-3-5-7-9-11-13-15 in Group A and 2-4-6-8-10-12-14-16 in Group B and everyone else draws randomly. You give out points for qualifying only for the Lucas guys. Still gives them incentive to qualify at the top and not shoot for the inverts.

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              • Hoosier_Dirt
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 1632

                #22
                Eliminate qualifying

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                • jog49
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 2551

                  #23
                  So how do you propose to set the heat races?

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                  • Hoosier_Dirt
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 1632

                    #24
                    Originally posted by jog49 View Post
                    So how do you propose to set the heat races?
                    Pill draw. Make em work for it in the heat races.

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                    • 84wedge
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2020
                      • 2088

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Hoosier_Dirt View Post
                      Eliminate qualifying
                      I have no problem wiht this.

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                      • drich24
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 281

                        #26
                        81% for High Limit.

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                        • drich24
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 281

                          #27
                          77% so far for WOOLM

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                          • drich24
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 281

                            #28
                            58% so far for USMTS.

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                            • reid boys
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 647

                              #29
                              Originally posted by drich24 View Post
                              58% so far for USMTS.
                              How does USMTS format work? Do they line up based on heat finish or by passing points?
                              Last edited by reid boys; 11-01-2024, 01:38 PM.

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                              • MRM
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 2999

                                #30
                                Instead of having heat #1 winner start the feature 1st, heat #2 winner start 3rd, heat #3 winner start 2nd, and heat #4 winner start 4th, I've been thinking of another way to do it to mix it up a bit without doing full pill draw or inverts. I came up with flipping them. Have heat #1 winner start 4th, heat #2 winner start 2nd, heat #3 winner start 3rd, and heat #4 winner start 1st. Or just invert the heats - the group with the fastest qualifier in group A will be the 4th heat, fastest qualifier in group B will be the 3rd heat, and so on.
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