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  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14324

    #16
    Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post


    Thereโ€™s that whole thing with Joiner not really being a consistent driver, too.
    There is consistency and there's no speed.
    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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    • 84wedge
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2020
      • 2094

      #17
      Who needs talent when you have a social media folowing? I swear I've never seen a losing team get as much press.

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      • Henry Every
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2023
        • 619

        #18
        Originally posted by blncfn57 View Post

        Fairly new to dirt racing? He's been around and generally whomever he helps has improved results. Another Vinny G in a sense.
        Who's Vinny G? Been around and in it since 1986.
        "In the Republic of Mediocrity, Genius is Dangerous." - Robert Green Ingersoll

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        • riddle28
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 1088

          #19
          Originally posted by Henry Every View Post

          Who's Vinny G? Been around and in it since 1986.
          just not actively paying attention for the most part since then i guess

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          • Finnfan25
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2019
            • 165

            #20
            Have to wonder if the Clanton communication has dried up somewhat (or altogether) since Dennis Erb has come onboard with Capital. Of course not communicating with "Mr. Personality" Clanton would not be such a bad thing in my book.

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            • blncfn57
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 2013

              #21
              Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post

              Except his pal RTJ did a lot better afterwards. Neither did HTF get much for their Vinny $
              His connection to RTJ existed long before the SSI deal, plus it's starting to look like RTJ and Burroughs were 'great' together but just 'good' once separated. It's safe to say the HTF group has better results doing things different than everyone else. Good engine, nah better results with a 20 yr old engine. Longhorn, nah better results in a Capital.
              All other circumstances equal, the guys with a Vinny, TC or Cody Mallory on their team are going to have improved results. That's the reason a guy like Mallory (with a checkered past) can still find gainful employment. For someone to comment on a racing forum that they do not know these guys is head scratching.
              Last edited by blncfn57; 01-30-2025, 07:54 AM.

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              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 14324

                #22
                Originally posted by blncfn57 View Post

                His connection to RTJ existed long before the SSI deal, plus it's starting to look like RTJ and Burroughs were 'great' together but just 'good' once separated. It's safe to say the HTF group has better results doing things different than everyone else. Good engine, nah better results with a 20 yr old engine. Longhorn, nah better results in a Capital.
                All other circumstances equal, the guys with a Vinny, TC or Cody Mallory on their team are going to have improved results. That's the reason a guy like Mallory (with a checkered past) can still find gainful employment. For someone to comment on a racing forum that they do not know these guys is head scratching.
                I've seen a lot of guys get a lot of jobs based on reputation more than actual results. Cody has helped most teams, but I never saw much benefit to Pierce program and they were terrible out of the box. Bottoming out horrible, embarrassing

                It's no different than all the shock packages that get bought and put on marketplace 2 weeks later. Nothing is guaranteed.

                An awful lot of money is spent in racing with no understanding of the actual deliverables. It's more hope.
                Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 01-30-2025, 08:40 AM.
                Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                • Kromulous
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 3008

                  #23
                  Joeseph looked pretty good to me. He can restart with the best of em, was really killing it on the restarts.

                  Car looked good until the track went away, but he needs to lean to adjust to that.

                  That 20 year old SB2 looks pretty stout to me, most of them he was racing with have the latest and greatest tech @ over 60k each, and that old engine was getting it done.

                  If we were still in the SLM racing game, i would buy it for 25k for sure to run semi local. Some cars dont like the weight of that engine thou.

                  Just say no...

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                  • Highside Hustler25
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 12972

                    #24
                    Originally posted by blncfn57
                    Seems odd to me that there are people who follow the sport that have not heard of TC or Vinny, that's all.
                    Just maybe their are fans that enjoy the racing and could give 2 shts who's turning the wrenches. Thank God we have know it alls like you to keep us enlightened. You can pat yourself on the back now.
                    8/13/16

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                    • Clayton_Wetters
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2019
                      • 1108

                      #25
                      Originally posted by blncfn57

                      I don't disagree with your assessment, but I don't think there's anyone in the sport that has it 100% figured out (perhaps you do). Seems odd to me that there are people who follow the sport that have not heard of TC or Vinny, that's all.
                      Lighten up, Francis... ๐Ÿ˜
                      I'm a copycat wetter... 😎

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                      • KTMLew
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 1168

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Kromulous View Post
                        Joeseph looked pretty good to me. He can restart with the best of em, was really killing it on the restarts.

                        Car looked good until the track went away, but he needs to lean to adjust to that.

                        That 20 year old SB2 looks pretty stout to me, most of them he was racing with have the latest and greatest tech @ over 60k each, and that old engine was getting it done.

                        If we were still in the SLM racing game, i would buy it for 25k for sure to run semi local. Some cars don't like the weight of that engine thou.
                        What does an Aluminum block SB2.2 weigh? Seen it mentioned that SB2 is heavy but what parts are heavier? These aren't old NASCAR cast iron blocks so I don't understand how could be that much heavier. How much does say 50lbs affect the car?

                        Don't believe this one is a 20 y/o version either. Believe was originally built for Brandon Overton? Maybe 10-12 years old?
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                        Edit: After some research you CAN put SB2.2 heads on a regular block with appropriate lifters & rockers. So the bottom end should/could be identical to any other stock bore spacing engine. Surely the heads aren't that much heavier?
                        Last edited by KTMLew; 01-30-2025, 12:32 PM.

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                        • KTMLew
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 1168

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Clayton_Wetters View Post

                          Lighten up, Francis... ๐Ÿ˜
                          She is always looking for a fight. Has to be a woman cause men aren't that emotional. <wink>

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                          • KTMLew
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 1168

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Henry Every
                            Riddle me this smart guys, How hard is it to say he's a shock builder/tweaker in Arkansas(VG)? All that back slapping and reach arounding each other and neither of you could say who he was. (Riddel28 & BleacherFart57) My guess is you didn't know either, you just "name dropped" to try and look smart on 4m.
                            Lot more women here than I thought. So many people getting emotional...

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                            • Clayton_Wetters
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2019
                              • 1108

                              #29
                              Originally posted by KTMLew View Post

                              She is always looking for a fight. Has to be a woman cause men aren't that emotional. <wink>
                              It goes way back with her on here. I get it, she's just trying to look superior is about the just of it... ๐Ÿค˜๐Ÿ˜†
                              I'm a copycat wetter... 😎

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                              • Henry Every
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2023
                                • 619

                                #30
                                Originally posted by blncfn57

                                I don't disagree with your assessment, but I don't think there's anyone in the sport that has it 100% figured out (perhaps you do). Seems odd to me that there are people who follow the sport that have not heard of TC or Vinny, that's all.
                                With all your flustered posturing you still havent been able to say who they are either, no worries a quick search got me up to speed with "you". VinnyG is VG Performance, a Bilstein Shock tweaker in Arkansas, at least according to his FB page. TC fabricates stuff. There, now I know as much as you.
                                "In the Republic of Mediocrity, Genius is Dangerous." - Robert Green Ingersoll

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