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  • HoosierDirtFan
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 22186

    #31
    Tonight at Peoria they are running B-Mods & Hornets along with the Super Late Models and Modifieds



    Nathan Stephens

    Next Race - 7/20 TBA
    2024 Season: 14 - Brownstown (IN) 2, Fairbury (IL) 2, Farmer City (IL) 1, Grundy Co (IL) 1, Kankakee (IL) 2, & Shadyhill (IN) 6

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    • 427c.i.
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 1218

      #32
      Here’s a novel idea after watching 2 hours of yawn at Peoria.

      EVERY class hot lap/qualifies. Period. The cream is still going to rise to the top and it’d save over an hour.
      Last edited by 427c.i.; 06-12-2025, 07:56 PM.

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      • Pennsboro32
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2020
        • 3440

        #33
        I see the promoter of Kankakee is on Facebook talking about the importance of 5 million support classes.

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        • hoosier race fan
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 716

          #34
          Originally posted by Pennsboro32 View Post
          I see the promoter of Kankakee is on Facebook talking about the importance of 5 million support classes.
          Complaining about the impact of streaming like many lazy promoters do. There were probably more people who stayed home when they saw how many support classes were scheduled for a week night show than there were who stayed home because it was streamed on Dirt Vision.

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          • BTExpress
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2015
            • 1208

            #35
            Originally posted by hoosier race fan View Post

            Complaining about the impact of streaming like many lazy promoters do. There were probably more people who stayed home when they saw how many support classes were scheduled for a week night show than there were who stayed home because it was streamed on Dirt Vision.
            Agree 💯. Maybe there is a promoter on the Hell tour who is willing to take a chance on running just the late models & mods during a midweek show. They just might be pleasantly surprised on the type of crowd they draw. They have to break this backgate mentality. Look no further than the sucess of the Flo night in America races and the High Limit races.

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            • EvelB7
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2018
              • 881

              #36
              Always funny when the promotor complains about the customer complaining (not saying you have to take action on everything you hear, but at least listen).... Hopefully someone puts the 'promote' back in promoter... If you are having trouble getting people in the stands probably not going to improve by running an inefficient show on a week night....

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              • One Man Wolf Pack
                Junior Member
                • Jan 2018
                • 14

                #37
                I've just watched Rapid Replay the last 3 mornings Saves a lot of hours

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                • Pennsboro32
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2020
                  • 3440

                  #38
                  I’ll give Peoria credit. I got to watch the feature last night.

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                  • kidrock
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 16406

                    #39
                    I worked with a promoter who said they guys and gals in the lower classes deserve to race in front of a big crowd like the upper classes. He said they support me every week.

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                    • riddle28
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 1084

                      #40
                      Originally posted by hoosier race fan View Post

                      Complaining about the impact of streaming like many lazy promoters do. There were probably more people who stayed home when they saw how many support classes were scheduled for a week night show than there were who stayed home because it was streamed on Dirt Vision.
                      if DV aint giving these tracks anything for streaming besides dropping the sanction fee then theyre getting robbed. Alot of these tracks are signing bad agreements especially when theyre not disclosing actual viewer #s

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                      • hoosier race fan
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 716

                        #41
                        Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                        I worked with a promoter who said they guys and gals in the lower classes deserve to race in front of a big crowd like the upper classes. He said they support me every week.
                        I would ask that promoter how much of that big crowd was still there to watch the lower classes when their feature hit the track after midnight on a week night? And how many of those fans will come back to watch them again?

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                        • over4T
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 1083

                          #42
                          Back in the late 1960s when I ran Eldora on Sunday afternoons Earl had 4 classes, Sprint cars just starting to get wings, Late Models which were new Chevelles, Torinos, Chargers, etc., Hardtops including my '39-'40 Ford flatheads which Mr. Baltes called Early Model Stocks, and a Hobby/Bomber type class. Had large car counts in all classes. Grandstands were like $1.50 and pit passes were $2.50, crowds were good and a guy that ran decent could at least break even. Shows were run efficiently and usually over at an early enough hour that we could hit another track on the way home that evening. We all know that Earl knew how to promote and run a race so maybe we're just missing that with many tracks' operators. Can't call most promoters.

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                          • EvelB7
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2018
                            • 881

                            #43
                            I do realize it is a different day and time, change is inevitable and the world continues to 'evolve' (or not in some cases). Racing has changed and so have the people participating, for better or worse; time for some things to change or we all will be looking for something else to fill our time. Weekdays or weekends, entertain the fans with what THEY want in a time that is acceptable to THEM (and I am guessing most want to be on their way home no later than 10:00 on a weekday or 10:30 on the weekend). Back gate racing will (and has) led to lower payouts and honestly fewer people that can afford to do it over the long haul. JMO

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                            • Highside Hustler25
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 12911

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Pennsboro32 View Post
                              I’ll give Peoria credit. I got to watch the feature last night.
                              Only because the track has a 10:30 curfew.
                              8/13/16

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                              • kidrock
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 16406

                                #45
                                Originally posted by hoosier race fan View Post

                                I would ask that promoter how much of that big crowd was still there to watch the lower classes when their feature hit the track after midnight on a week night? And how many of those fans will come back to watch them again?
                                Well first off they had an 10;30 or 11:00 curfew so no races were run at midnight. He ran most of their features before the Late Models. They would pack the place every Summer Nationals race the whole time he ran the place...The classes he would run Late Models, Modifieds, Street Stocks and Hornets,

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