Originally posted by EvelB7
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Why four cars in the "playoffs"?
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I do not agree, but we do not have to. Having a few races count more than others is not a way to determine a SEASON CHAMPION, IMO.Originally posted by EvelB7 View PostThe way I understand it is BRS wanted the format; since they are putting up the money I believe they have a right to have their expectations met. Thank you BRS, whether I think the format is perfect or not I do appreciate them stepping up and taking care of the racers! Big dollar sponsors are hard to find, may not be to everyone's liking but it sure has kept people typing...
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Actually we do agree. My point is that it is their money and the series wishes to keep it, not if it truly determines the season champion. I do appreciate BRS stepping up with the dough, did not say it is the way I would like it but it is theirs to spend as they see fit. There are constructive ways to change things, people calling them dumb, stupid, etc. just makes them dig in harder and feel no one appreciates what they are doing. I agree with the sentiment that the current format does not determine the season champion (as NASCAR's does not either) and puts to much emphasis on one race.Originally posted by blncfn57 View Post
I do not agree, but we do not have to. Having a few races count more than others is not a way to determine a SEASON CHAMPION, IMO.
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Lucas has 11 races paying $50,000+ to win, WoO has 5. I don't see the top tier Lucas teams ever changing until/unless WoO could start getting some Lucas races to shift sanctioning. But not sure that is possible to do without having a better group of drivers to court with. There is too much money to race for with Lucas that the trade off is they have to deal with the points system. B & C level teams will continue to jump sanctioning back and forth.
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to me the playoff deal cheapens the definition of being a champion.
if a driver has a problem at the finale he could easily lose the championship, it shouldn’t be that way.
back when Lucas Oil sponsored a wide variety of racing series, I’d go out of my way to purchase their product and support them, but not any more.
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You can be upset with the series, Lucas Oil, or other sponsors, but these teams race for money. And thanks to the format change and influx of money, the teams are benefitting from it. From 2022 to 2025 nearly every position in the point standings has doubled (some tripled) in point fund money.
2022 point fund, year before the Chase format:
$500k point fund
1. $150,000
2. $75,000
3. $50,000
4. $40,000
5. $35,000
6. $32,000
7. $30,000
8. $26,000
9. $25,000
10. $24,000
11. $23,000
12. $20,000
2023 & 2024
$1M point fund
1. $200,000
2. $150,000
3. $125,000
4. $100,000
5. $75,000
6. $60,000
7. $50,000
8. $45,000
9. $40,000
10. $35,000
11. $30,000
12. $25,000
2025
$1.27M
1. $250,000
2. $200,000
3. $150,000
4.$125,000
5. $100,000
6. $80,000
7. $60,000
8. $55,000
9. $50,000
10. $45,000
11. $40,000
12. $35,000
13. $30,000
14. $25,000
15. $20,000​
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A quick check shows the World of Outlaws with a very similar increase to the points fund but without a chase gimmick.And the days that I keep my gratitude higher than my expectations, well, I have really good days - Ray Wylie Hubbard
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Yeah, they raised the chase participant totals so when you got cheated out of the championship, you didn't lose as much money.Originally posted by Tireguy17 View PostYou can be upset with the series, Lucas Oil, or other sponsors, but these teams race for money. And thanks to the format change and influx of money, the teams are benefitting from it. From 2022 to 2025 nearly every position in the point standings has doubled (some tripled) in point fund money.
2022 point fund, year before the Chase format:
$500k point fund
1. $150,000
2. $75,000
3. $50,000
4. $40,000
5. $35,000
6. $32,000
7. $30,000
8. $26,000
9. $25,000
10. $24,000
11. $23,000
12. $20,000
2023 & 2024
$1M point fund
1. $200,000
2. $150,000
3. $125,000
4. $100,000
5. $75,000
6. $60,000
7. $50,000
8. $45,000
9. $40,000
10. $35,000
11. $30,000
12. $25,000
2025
$1.27M
1. $250,000
2. $200,000
3. $150,000
4.$125,000
5. $100,000
6. $80,000
7. $60,000
8. $55,000
9. $50,000
10. $45,000
11. $40,000
12. $35,000
13. $30,000
14. $25,000
15. $20,000Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing
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So RTJ only lost $75,000 the year he was robbed. Got it.Originally posted by Tireguy17 View PostYou can be upset with the series, Lucas Oil, or other sponsors, but these teams race for money. And thanks to the format change and influx of money, the teams are benefitting from it. From 2022 to 2025 nearly every position in the point standings has doubled (some tripled) in point fund money.
2022 point fund, year before the Chase format:
$500k point fund
1. $150,000
2. $75,000
3. $50,000
4. $40,000
5. $35,000
6. $32,000
7. $30,000
8. $26,000
9. $25,000
10. $24,000
11. $23,000
12. $20,000
2023 & 2024
$1M point fund
1. $200,000
2. $150,000
3. $125,000
4. $100,000
5. $75,000
6. $60,000
7. $50,000
8. $45,000
9. $40,000
10. $35,000
11. $30,000
12. $25,000
2025
$1.27M
1. $250,000
2. $200,000
3. $150,000
4.$125,000
5. $100,000
6. $80,000
7. $60,000
8. $55,000
9. $50,000
10. $45,000
11. $40,000
12. $35,000
13. $30,000
14. $25,000
15. $20,000
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Best wishes to RTJ this weekend. Will wish Devin good luck when he leads the points going into whatever made for tv gimmick is next.And the days that I keep my gratitude higher than my expectations, well, I have really good days - Ray Wylie Hubbard
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even I have to love this post from three weeks agoOriginally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View PostI hope Moran or Hudson wins it. It's their pooch, they can screw it if they want. It's really not as big a deal as what they did to the technical side of the sport.
And the days that I keep my gratitude higher than my expectations, well, I have really good days - Ray Wylie Hubbard
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