You must be joking!

[In The Gas]

The problem with your argument is the promoter/track doesn't get the entry fee...... The series does.

They've been charging entry fees since like the beginning of racing.

Your argument holds no merit for the guys or gals who put on the show. With no drivers you have no show!
$105 entry fee
$45+ times 4 people to get in the gate plus pits=$180
$50 food for 4 people
$125 fuel to/from the track
You end up running for $2500 if you win.
This doesn't even touch the wear and tear on the car or the hauler.
Race team do not come close to breaking even.

So to charge a race team to enter is a big joke.
Do you see the Undertaker getting charged to wrestle in WrestleMania? He!! No you don't because he is the one putting on the show.
Stop charging the entry fee!
Although this is not the popular choice, the fans should pick up the fee.

[W2Racing09]

Your argument holds no merit for the guys or gals who put on the show. With no drivers you have no show!
$105 entry fee
$45+ times 4 people to get in the gate plus pits=$180
$50 food for 4 people
$125 fuel to/from the track
You end up running for $2500 if you win.
This doesn't even touch the wear and tear on the car or the hauler.
Race team do not come close to breaking even.

So to charge a race team to enter is a big joke.
Do you see the Undertaker getting charged to wrestle in WrestleMania? He!! No you don't because he is the one putting on the show.
Stop charging the entry fee!
Although this is not the popular choice, the fans should pick up the fee.

That is a little bit different considering the undertaker wrestles in front of 100k people inside an arena each of whom was totally willing to pay $100+ for a ticket. Try passing that cost on to the fans and see how quick there is a 200 page thread on here complaining about ticket prices. Are the event promoters supposed to go in the red to make everyone else happy? They are in business to make money too.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[huskerdirt]

Your argument holds no merit for the guys or gals who put on the show. With no drivers you have no show!
$105 entry fee
$45+ times 4 people to get in the gate plus pits=$180
$50 food for 4 people
$125 fuel to/from the track
You end up running for $2500 if you win.
This doesn't even touch the wear and tear on the car or the hauler.
Race team do not come close to breaking even.

So to charge a race team to enter is a big joke.
Do you see the Undertaker getting charged to wrestle in WrestleMania? He!! No you don't because he is the one putting on the show.
Stop charging the entry fee!
Although this is not the popular choice, the fans should pick up the fee.

And just now you think it's a joke??? Where the heck have you been????


My argument had nothing to do whether it was right. Just making a statement of fact. Entry fees, sanction fees, sponsors pay the point fund and wage for those people that work there asses for this sport.

I got a better idea..... Let's just have everybody come in for free. No charge for anything. Then when the series/track/promoter goes broke and can't pay anything out. You can sit back and say well atleast we got in for free.

Everybody that pulls through gate knows the deal. It's too bad your head is so buried in the sand you don't.

[old fan]

sorry the fans pay the purse and should ,there are tracks that don't change their admission or pit pass fee for any show try that one on for size pay attention no entry fee no higher pit pass and no higher on admission prices

[huskerdirt]

sorry the fans pay the purse and should ,there are tracks that don't change their admission or pit pass fee for any show try that one on for size pay attention no entry fee no higher pit pass and no higher on admission prices

I never says a word about the front gate.


Litey..... Please name this 8th wonder of the world you call a race track. And you say such track does this every week? Highly doubt it.

[slmcrewchief99]

Every regional series we run with has an entry fee. Been doing it for a long time too. Pretty much normal for 6 different regional series I can think of off the top of my head. Not saying it's right or wrong but if you don't pay, you won't play.

[old fan]

http://brushcreekmotorsports.com/thehiddengem/driver-info/dirtcar-ump-license/

[BIG MAC ATTACK]

Why even bring in a small regional series all it does is pad their pockets,doesnt do anything for the racers,Florence has had 2 $5000 to win races and a $3000 to win race with no sanctioning and no entry fee to be pocketed by someone who just rolls in,kind of like the Cartel knocking on a businesses door to get paid for letting you make money,racing is expensive enough for local and regional guys without giving another 105.00 to someone

[old fan]

http://oakshaderaceway.com/track-information/admission-prices/

[huskerdirt]

sorry the fans pay the purse and should ,there are tracks that don't change their admission or pit pass fee for any show try that one on for size pay attention no entry fee no higher pit pass and no higher on admission prices

http://oakshaderaceway.gcom/track-in...ission-prices/

I see a lot of regional shows on the schedule. I bet the series collects entry fees on those... which doesn't get passed on to the track.

Infact those prices are right in line with tracks in my area. Gasp..... Who knew???? Actually a regular show at Oakshade is $2 higher.

Try again Litey.

[huskerdirt]

http://brushcreekmotorsports.com/?page_id=2935

They charge $15 for a regular show????? Of course they can get by without having prices increased for a regional show. They are ripping people off on the weekly show.

[slmcrewchief99]

Don't hold me to this but I am pretty sure that some of the entry fee is for the series point fund. Part of it I am sure will go to paying the series workers too. All of these series bring a half dozen or more people. They each have a different but important job to do. They are just as professional as Lucas or WoO in the way each series are run too. We make our entry fees and car registration with them. We pill draw from them. We have drivers meeting with them. Our line ups come from them. If we have issues, we go to them. We get paid by them. NONE of this comes from the track. I don't see what the issue is. I wouldn't do ANY of what these series people do for free. I don't work for free and I would be willing to bet NONE of ya'll do either.

Racing isn't cheap and the entry fees are factored in with all the rest of the overhead we have. Like I said, I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but if you want to race with ANY regional series around here you are going to pay it. If not, you can go race at a few local tracks for $800 to $1000 and not travel any.

[huskerdirt]

Don't hold me to this but I am pretty sure that some of the entry fee is for the series point fund. Part of it I am sure will go to paying the series workers too. All of these series bring a half dozen or more people. They each have a different but important job to do. They are just as professional as Lucas or WoO in the way each series are run too. We make our entry fees and car registration with them. We pill draw from them. We have drivers meeting with them. Our line ups come from them. If we have issues, we go to them. We get paid by them. NONE of this comes from the track. I don't see what the issue is. I wouldn't do ANY of what these series people do for free. I don't work for free and I would be willing to bet NONE of ya'll do either.

Racing isn't cheap and the entry fees are factored in with all the rest of the overhead we have. Like I said, I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but if you want to race with ANY regional series around here you are going to pay it. If not, you can go race at a few local tracks for $800 to $1000 and not travel any.

That's my understanding too. This is why you are seeing more races get called a few days earlier. And it's a multi swing.... The whole thing gets called off. They still have to pay those people.

They get to a track. The event rains out. That means the series/sanction doesn't get the entry fee or sanction fee. So they are out that money.

[HoosierDirtFan]

They charge $15 for a regular show????? Of course they can get by without having prices increased for a regional show. They are ripping people off on the weekly show.

NO Their not.
Been to Oakshade plenty of times to know.
27-30+ UMP Late Models, about 25-30 UMP Sportsman, 40+ Bombers, & about 20+ 4 Cylinder for a weekly show.
How exactly are they ripping the fans off.
50 Cent pop, huge tub of popcorn for $1.00, ect.
Their hole concession stand is very cheep.
Oakshade is some of the best racing anywhere. $20.00 Pit Pass. $12.00 Grandstands.
Been to a lot of dirt tracks and Oakshade may very well be one of the best kept secrets in dirt racing.

[huskerdirt]

NO Their not.
Been to Oakshade plenty of times to know.
27-30+ UMP Late Models, about 25-30 UMP Sportsman, 40+ Bombers, & about 20+ 4 Cylinder for a weekly show.
How exactly are they ripping the fans off.
50 Cent pop, huge tub of popcorn for $1.00, ect.
Their hole concession stand is very cheep.
Oakshade is some of the best racing anywhere. $20.00 Pit Pass. $12.00 Grandstands.
Been to a lot of dirt tracks and Oakshade may very well be one of the best kept secrets in dirt racing.

Meant to quote the brushcreek link.

Carry on.....