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  • HoosierDirtFan
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 22186

    #31
    Originally posted by huskerdirt View Post
    Meant to quote the brushcreek link.

    Carry on.....
    Gotch ya. thought you where talking about Oakshade.
    Nathan Stephens

    Next Race - 7/20 TBA
    2024 Season: 14 - Brownstown (IN) 2, Fairbury (IL) 2, Farmer City (IL) 1, Grundy Co (IL) 1, Kankakee (IL) 2, & Shadyhill (IN) 6

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    • huskerdirt
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 5620

      #32
      Originally posted by HoosierDirtFan View Post
      Gotch ya. thought you where talking about Oakshade.
      No harm, No foul.

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      • Dante Toledo, OH
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 1157

        #33
        Originally posted by huskerdirt View Post
        I see a lot of regional shows on the schedule. I bet the series collects entry fees on those... which doesn't get passed on to the track.Infact those prices are right in line with tracks in my area. Gasp..... Who knew???? Actually a regular show at Oakshade is $2 higher.Try again Litey.
        Oakshade cost $12 at the gate and $20 for pits for a $10,000 to win summer nationals race. Where is this track you speak of that dose it cheaper?
        Go Buckeyes!!!

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        • pink floyd
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 8181

          #34
          parking and seating will both be issues at moler, but the racing should be good.
          jackie boggs....the last true outlaw
          anyone but lanigan
          Swartz - we don't build race cars fast, we build fast race cars

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          • huskerdirt
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 5620

            #35
            Originally posted by Dante Toledo, OH View Post
            Oakshade cost $12 at the gate and $20 for pits for a $10,000 to win summer nationals race. Where is this track you speak of that dose it cheaper?
            Never said any track does it cheaper. Never said any track does it better.

            All i said was tracks in my area charge that for a regular show. Litey made it sound like its the greatest place in the world. Yes, the tracks Im speaking of do raise the gate prices on specials. These tracks also don't make really any money on a weekly show. I guess what I'm asking in the end is that does Oakshade really make that much on a weekly show that it doesn't need to inflate the prices to cover there cost of bringing in a regional show. Bringing in even a small show like that is no small potatoes.

            If they do.... Then great. They are the extreme exception to the rule. Props to them.

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            • lazermod3
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 1910

              #36
              Here's the bottom line! Why do the spectators come to the races?The answer is to see good competitive racing.Now I ask you,what does it take to put on the racing event? Answer is good facilities a racing surface,and the race cars.

              Now,without the car owners,and drivers going to compete in these event's,the track owner,and or promoter have nothing but a dirt farm.(EXAMPLE)could you see big Ben of the Pittsburgh Stealers paying his way into the game?This could be far fetched,but the point is this,the racer and car owner ARE paying to put on a show for the fans.
              you just got greased
              http://www.goddardwarrior.net

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              • Bob Hubbard
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 1048

                #37
                Last year I saw conleys pack up n leave because moler wasnt going to qualify .... I got upset when i thought I wasnt going to get to use my rain check stub .... Now everyones posting what if's .... I liked the buckeye series last years because it brought in the fast guys .... The races I made last year of the buckeye series were all good racing .... Im not a fan of the front wheel drive cars at the local events .... Yes ...I would rather pay more to see a higher level of racing .... I like what the buckeye series did for lacal racing here last year .... I would like to hear the facts about who makes what so the money is spread around ..... Good topic if the facts come to the top ....
                Retired - Snowbird ... Living the Dream

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                • old fan
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 4191

                  #38
                  Originally posted by huskerdirt View Post
                  I see a lot of regional shows on the schedule. I bet the series collects entry fees on those... which doesn't get passed on to the track.Infact those prices are right in line with tracks in my area. Gasp..... Who knew???? Actually a regular show at Oakshade is $2 higher.Try again Litey.
                  sorry they do not its part of UMP yes ALMS is UMP

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                  • FASTRAKPR
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 4924

                    #39
                    Originally posted by lazermod3 View Post
                    $105.00 entry fee for the BOB series race,paying $3000.00 to win at Moler Speedway 04/15/16,plus you must rent a transponder. WOW! The entry fee is way out of line.
                    You know I find this really weird honestly. This was openly discussed in the meetings in KY and not one complaint. Did you also tell everyone it was $400 to start? Need to tell both sides of the story to get to the bottom line here.

                    If the teams don't want to run transponders that suits the hell out of us. One less person we would have to bring and $15,000 system we wouldn't have to purchase.

                    We are simply trying to do what the teams asked. If that has changed might be good if someone lets us know rather than complaining on a message board. I don't remember a message board ever resolving a problem in racing, but I do remember it starting a few.
                    Last edited by FASTRAKPR; 04-08-2016, 08:39 AM.

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                    • W2Racing09
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 1691

                      #40
                      Originally posted by lazermod3 View Post
                      Here's the bottom line! Why do the spectators come to the races?The answer is to see good competitive racing.Now I ask you,what does it take to put on the racing event? Answer is good facilities a racing surface,and the race cars.

                      Now,without the car owners,and drivers going to compete in these event's,the track owner,and or promoter have nothing but a dirt farm.(EXAMPLE)could you see big Ben of the Pittsburgh Stealers paying his way into the game?This could be far fetched,but the point is this,the racer and car owner ARE paying to put on a show for the fans.
                      All correct.

                      However, right now for a good regional show fans are paying what? $20? Maybe $25? Try bumping that up to $35 and see how many of those fans decide to go to the track with the local (not more expensive) show or even to the movies or to a minor league baseball game instead. Now the track/tour loses 25% of the fans -- but they can't operate in the red and they certainly can't charge the drivers any money. They have to increase the ticket price again -- to $40. Another 10% of the fans leave... so on and so on until racing does not exist anymore. The current system works, as is evident by thousands of races that take place each year. This BoB race will have a full field of cars despite the entry fees and everyone will move on to the next race.

                      Thanks,
                      Jeff.

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                      • old fan
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2016
                        • 4191

                        #41
                        Originally posted by huskerdirt View Post
                        Never said any track does it cheaper. Never said any track does it better. All i said was tracks in my area charge that for a regular show. Litey made it sound like its the greatest place in the world. Yes, the tracks Im speaking of do raise the gate prices on specials. These tracks also don't make really any money on a weekly show. I guess what I'm asking in the end is that does Oakshade really make that much on a weekly show that it doesn't need to inflate the prices to cover there cost of bringing in a regional show. Bringing in even a small show like that is no small potatoes.If they do.... Then great. They are the extreme exception to the rule. Props to them.
                        yes it called at the back gate check out their car counts for the support classes no surprises to the support classes either and no surprises at the front gate either which means happy people

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                        • fastford
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 4059

                          #42
                          Originally posted by FASTRAKPR View Post
                          You know I find this really weird honestly. This was openly discussed in the meetings in KY and not one complaint. Did you also tell everyone it was $400 to start? Need to tell both sides of the story to get to the bottom line here.

                          If the teams don't want to run transponders that suits the hell out of us. One less person we would have to bring and $15,000 system we wouldn't have to purchase.

                          We are simply trying to do what the teams asked. If that has changed might be good if someone lets us know rather than complaining on a message board. I don't remember a message board ever resolving a problem in racing, but I do remember it starting a few.
                          i have to agree with fastrack , that 400 to start changes every thing, and I would bet , if you gather every driver that shows up and let them decide, pay 105.00 entry fee and 400.00 to start or no entry fee and 100.00 to start, they will choose the 400.00 to start every time.

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                          • vande07
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 1004

                            #43
                            even NASCAR Sprint Cup with it's $4 BILLION TV deal charges and entry fee.



                            Teams pay a $4,300 “entry and inspection fee” to have their primary car approved for competition during a NASCAR weekend. If an inspected/approved car is wrecked beyond repair, the team must pay another $4,300 to have the backup car inspected and approved for competition. A “post-entry” fee of $5,675 applies if a team files an entry less than two weeks before the race date

                            Read more: http://autoweek.com/article/nascar-s...#ixzz45EuJDZcr

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                            • W2Racing09
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 1691

                              #44
                              Originally posted by fastford View Post
                              i have to agree with fastrack , that 400 to start changes every thing, and I would bet , if you gather every driver that shows up and let them decide, pay 105.00 entry fee and 400.00 to start or no entry fee and 100.00 to start, they will choose the 400.00 to start every time.
                              Yeah -- I don't think any of it is much of a surprise to anyone. Everyone is always just looking for something to b!tch about.

                              Thanks,
                              Jeff.

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                              • cutman
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 1005

                                #45
                                Originally posted by W2Racing09 View Post
                                Yeah -- I don't think any of it is much of a surprise to anyone. Everyone is always just looking for something to b!tch about.

                                Thanks,
                                Jeff.
                                You are correct sir. It's the American way, b!tch and put your hand out

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