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Gotch ya. thought you where talking about Oakshade.Nathan Stephens
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Oakshade cost $12 at the gate and $20 for pits for a $10,000 to win summer nationals race. Where is this track you speak of that dose it cheaper?Originally posted by huskerdirt View PostI see a lot of regional shows on the schedule. I bet the series collects entry fees on those... which doesn't get passed on to the track.Infact those prices are right in line with tracks in my area. Gasp..... Who knew???? Actually a regular show at Oakshade is $2 higher.Try again Litey.Go Buckeyes!!!
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parking and seating will both be issues at moler, but the racing should be good.jackie boggs....the last true outlaw
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Never said any track does it cheaper. Never said any track does it better.Originally posted by Dante Toledo, OH View PostOakshade cost $12 at the gate and $20 for pits for a $10,000 to win summer nationals race. Where is this track you speak of that dose it cheaper?
All i said was tracks in my area charge that for a regular show. Litey made it sound like its the greatest place in the world. Yes, the tracks Im speaking of do raise the gate prices on specials. These tracks also don't make really any money on a weekly show. I guess what I'm asking in the end is that does Oakshade really make that much on a weekly show that it doesn't need to inflate the prices to cover there cost of bringing in a regional show. Bringing in even a small show like that is no small potatoes.
If they do.... Then great. They are the extreme exception to the rule. Props to them.
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Here's the bottom line! Why do the spectators come to the races?The answer is to see good competitive racing.Now I ask you,what does it take to put on the racing event? Answer is good facilities a racing surface,and the race cars.
Now,without the car owners,and drivers going to compete in these event's,the track owner,and or promoter have nothing but a dirt farm.(EXAMPLE)could you see big Ben of the Pittsburgh Stealers paying his way into the game?This could be far fetched,but the point is this,the racer and car owner ARE paying to put on a show for the fans.you just got greased
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Last year I saw conleys pack up n leave because moler wasnt going to qualify .... I got upset when i thought I wasnt going to get to use my rain check stub .... Now everyones posting what if's .... I liked the buckeye series last years because it brought in the fast guys .... The races I made last year of the buckeye series were all good racing .... Im not a fan of the front wheel drive cars at the local events .... Yes ...I would rather pay more to see a higher level of racing .... I like what the buckeye series did for lacal racing here last year .... I would like to hear the facts about who makes what so the money is spread around ..... Good topic if the facts come to the top ....Retired - Snowbird ... Living the Dream
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sorry they do not its part of UMP yes ALMS is UMPOriginally posted by huskerdirt View PostI see a lot of regional shows on the schedule. I bet the series collects entry fees on those... which doesn't get passed on to the track.Infact those prices are right in line with tracks in my area. Gasp..... Who knew???? Actually a regular show at Oakshade is $2 higher.Try again Litey.
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You know I find this really weird honestly. This was openly discussed in the meetings in KY and not one complaint. Did you also tell everyone it was $400 to start? Need to tell both sides of the story to get to the bottom line here.Originally posted by lazermod3 View Post$105.00 entry fee for the BOB series race,paying $3000.00 to win at Moler Speedway 04/15/16,plus you must rent a transponder. WOW! The entry fee is way out of line.
If the teams don't want to run transponders that suits the hell out of us. One less person we would have to bring and $15,000 system we wouldn't have to purchase.
We are simply trying to do what the teams asked. If that has changed might be good if someone lets us know rather than complaining on a message board. I don't remember a message board ever resolving a problem in racing, but I do remember it starting a few.Last edited by FASTRAKPR; 04-08-2016, 08:39 AM.
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All correct.Originally posted by lazermod3 View PostHere's the bottom line! Why do the spectators come to the races?The answer is to see good competitive racing.Now I ask you,what does it take to put on the racing event? Answer is good facilities a racing surface,and the race cars.
Now,without the car owners,and drivers going to compete in these event's,the track owner,and or promoter have nothing but a dirt farm.(EXAMPLE)could you see big Ben of the Pittsburgh Stealers paying his way into the game?This could be far fetched,but the point is this,the racer and car owner ARE paying to put on a show for the fans.
However, right now for a good regional show fans are paying what? $20? Maybe $25? Try bumping that up to $35 and see how many of those fans decide to go to the track with the local (not more expensive) show or even to the movies or to a minor league baseball game instead. Now the track/tour loses 25% of the fans -- but they can't operate in the red and they certainly can't charge the drivers any money. They have to increase the ticket price again -- to $40. Another 10% of the fans leave... so on and so on until racing does not exist anymore. The current system works, as is evident by thousands of races that take place each year. This BoB race will have a full field of cars despite the entry fees and everyone will move on to the next race.
Thanks,
Jeff.
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yes it called at the back gate check out their car counts for the support classes no surprises to the support classes either and no surprises at the front gate either which means happy peopleOriginally posted by huskerdirt View PostNever said any track does it cheaper. Never said any track does it better. All i said was tracks in my area charge that for a regular show. Litey made it sound like its the greatest place in the world. Yes, the tracks Im speaking of do raise the gate prices on specials. These tracks also don't make really any money on a weekly show. I guess what I'm asking in the end is that does Oakshade really make that much on a weekly show that it doesn't need to inflate the prices to cover there cost of bringing in a regional show. Bringing in even a small show like that is no small potatoes.If they do.... Then great. They are the extreme exception to the rule. Props to them.
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i have to agree with fastrack , that 400 to start changes every thing, and I would bet , if you gather every driver that shows up and let them decide, pay 105.00 entry fee and 400.00 to start or no entry fee and 100.00 to start, they will choose the 400.00 to start every time.Originally posted by FASTRAKPR View PostYou know I find this really weird honestly. This was openly discussed in the meetings in KY and not one complaint. Did you also tell everyone it was $400 to start? Need to tell both sides of the story to get to the bottom line here.
If the teams don't want to run transponders that suits the hell out of us. One less person we would have to bring and $15,000 system we wouldn't have to purchase.
We are simply trying to do what the teams asked. If that has changed might be good if someone lets us know rather than complaining on a message board. I don't remember a message board ever resolving a problem in racing, but I do remember it starting a few.
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even NASCAR Sprint Cup with it's $4 BILLION TV deal charges and entry fee.
Teams pay a $4,300 “entry and inspection fee†to have their primary car approved for competition during a NASCAR weekend. If an inspected/approved car is wrecked beyond repair, the team must pay another $4,300 to have the backup car inspected and approved for competition. A “post-entry†fee of $5,675 applies if a team files an entry less than two weeks before the race date
Read more: http://autoweek.com/article/nascar-s...#ixzz45EuJDZcr
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Yeah -- I don't think any of it is much of a surprise to anyone. Everyone is always just looking for something to b!tch about.Originally posted by fastford View Posti have to agree with fastrack , that 400 to start changes every thing, and I would bet , if you gather every driver that shows up and let them decide, pay 105.00 entry fee and 400.00 to start or no entry fee and 100.00 to start, they will choose the 400.00 to start every time.
Thanks,
Jeff.
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