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  • MRM
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 3018

    #46
    Originally posted by huskerdirt View Post
    $100 entry fee is pretty standard for regional shows. No matter if it's 3k or 10k to win.
    Sadly, that is true. And that doesn't count the pit pass.
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    • Josh Bayko
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 8758

      #47
      It kind of amazes me how many people here who supposedly love racing don't understand the business of it.
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      • kazual
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 1168

        #48
        You mean fans and promoters don't owe it to drivers to pay more to guarantee that all race teams are profitable? In spite of how well they prepare or how well they run? Oh, and we should raise admission prices enough to guarantee everyone gets a trophy while we're at it. Seriously, fans appreciate race teams putting on a show but none of us are entitled to anything that isn't earned. Change sanction fees or admission prices as you see fit, the response will tell you real quick whether the product on the track is worth the cost to fans, racers, tracks, and sanctioning bodies, simple enough. Or check out the new Bernie Sanders Raceway where everyone gets freebies and goes broke in two weeks.
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        • zach51
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 1362

          #49
          Lol I think the Bernie Sanders reference is funny.

          "You have two late models and I have none, so vote for Bernie and we'll each have one.

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          • 1dartman
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 15

            #50
            As said earlier, NASCAR has entry fees. So does IRL. The NFL, NBA NHL and MLB all have franchise fees to belong as well as the minor leagues.
            Local softball leagues and tournaments, basketball, youth baseball, soccer, hockey or just about any other sport has entry fees to compete. Bass fishing tournaments even have entry fees.
            If you play in a local bars dart or pool league there are signup and weekly fees you pay.
            The comment about the Undertaker not paying to be at Wrestlemaina is true. Only problem with that is he is a performer in sports entertainment. He is not competing in a sport. Wrestlers starting out, just like actors, often pay to attend a school then perform in matches or shows for pay.
            My last comment is that most of the complaining about this and other money issues such as payout and cost, are fans. The car owners know the cost and rules going in. if they don’t like the entry fees or rules, they will race somewhere else.

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            • Josh Bayko
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 8758

              #51
              The Undertaker references are pretty funny to me. Folks don't realize that professional wrestlers, even those employed by the billion dollar corporate juggernaut that is the WWE, are largely on the hook for their own travel expenses. The WWE will pay for the flight from home to the first city on the tour, and a flight back home from the last city on a tour, but the rental car and hotel rooms in between the two points are paid for by the performers.
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              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 14324

                #52
                Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
                It kind of amazes me how many people here who supposedly love racing don't understand the business of it.
                People in this neck of the woods are not used to those kinds of entry fees for those kinds of purses. We see that as stuff southerners deal with.
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                • MasterSbilt_Racer
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 14324

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
                  The Undertaker references are pretty funny to me. Folks don't realize that professional wrestlers, even those employed by the billion dollar corporate juggernaut that is the WWE, are largely on the hook for their own travel expenses. The WWE will pay for the flight from home to the first city on the tour, and a flight back home from the last city on a tour, but the rental car and hotel rooms in between the two points are paid for by the performers.
                  No one is asking for fuel money for the toter.

                  The front gate paid the purses back in the day before the economic model fell apart.
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                  • Josh Bayko
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 8758

                    #54
                    Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                    People in this neck of the woods are not used to those kinds of entry fees for those kinds of purses. We see that as stuff southerners deal with.
                    The business has changed. You, of all people, should understand that.
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                    • Josh Bayko
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 8758

                      #55
                      Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                      No one is asking for fuel money for the toter.

                      The front gate paid the purses back in the day before the economic model fell apart.
                      The claim is that wrestlers don't have to pay to perform, yet in a way, they do. They're also on the hook for their own ring attire.
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                      • huskerdirt
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 5620

                        #56
                        Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                        People in this neck of the woods are not used to those kinds of entry fees for those kinds of purses. We see that as stuff southerners deal with.
                        They've been paying entry fees out here in the midwest since the Busch All Star days. And probably further back than that. $100 for MLRA or Mars type show has been going on for probably a decade, if not longer.

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                        • Jim11h
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 1501

                          #57
                          Originally posted by huskerdirt View Post
                          Never said any track does it cheaper. Never said any track does it better.

                          All i said was tracks in my area charge that for a regular show. Litey made it sound like its the greatest place in the world. Yes, the tracks Im speaking of do raise the gate prices on specials. These tracks also don't make really any money on a weekly show. I guess what I'm asking in the end is that does Oakshade really make that much on a weekly show that it doesn't need to inflate the prices to cover there cost of bringing in a regional show. Bringing in even a small show like that is no small potatoes.

                          If they do.... Then great. They are the extreme exception to the rule. Props to them.
                          Reckon you'll just have to come to nw Ohio for summer nats and see. Friday 5k Saturday 10k. Alms shows oldfeild show, all paying more to win with no increase. We have other tracks like Fremont and Attica that raise prices for specials but sprints pay more. All 3 tracks packed with cars and fans every week. Maybe not packed but doin well in stands

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                          • Jim11h
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 1501

                            #58
                            Oh yea. Entry fees aren't to common round here. Sanction fee yes but entry NO

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                            • Cardirt0
                              Banned
                              • May 2007
                              • 5271

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
                              The claim is that wrestlers don't have to pay to perform, yet in a way, they do. They're also on the hook for their own ring attire.
                              The ones with no fireworks when they come out means they put up no money too do them... LOL

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                              • lazermod3
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 1910

                                #60
                                Some V.I.said that the nascar folks pay a entry fee of $4300.00 to $5675.00 depending of the circumstances.

                                WOW! Ill do that all day long,if I was afforded the payout that nascar has.In a recent cup race Jimmy Johnson won and his share was $262,111.00,and the person who ended up last was Ryan Newman,and he collected $110,718.00.
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