Dqed from dream

[old fan]

Good for the sprints. IDC about them, they have to get pushed to start. Boriiiiinnnnnngggggg

true about that but a he11 va a lot faster than a late model

[cutman]

Is it possible that Sam caught wind of what teams were using and sending to the lab to see if it would pass? Or would what they were using be undetectable regardless of knowing what to test for?

[gjohnston]

Jimmy Mars has to be laughing about this.

[oldfart50]

Or maybe it is like this. If you are a Lucas guy with $100k on the line it is worth the risk. If you get caught you still get to run the Lucas series. But if you are a WOO guy and get caught you will also get suspended from the WOO. Risk VS Reward. Some of you should really contact your state and demand a refund for your education...

Could it be a conspiracy? This is how I break it down. 1. Scott Bloomquist Lucas boy thru and thru. Left WoO in 2004 and never looked back. Been a Lucas regular since 2009 and has been the Lucas Oil poster child for the last 6 years. 2. Jimmy Owens The other Lucas poster child. 3 Lucas titles in a row. Only National series he's ever competed in. Bleeds Lucas oil red second only to Scott. 3. Brandon Sheppard One of the hottest young guns out there. Gained National exposure with WoO when he got the Rocket house car ride for a year. WoO thought they might get a fresh young driver for their series as some of the WoO originals are getting close to the end of their careers on a National level. But wait, B Shep ends up joining the Lucas tour right when they're in dire need of some new good talent after losing T Mac and Lanigan. 4. Greg Satterlee Ran the WoO tour for quite a few years and has since dropped off to run a more regional schedule. 5. Ricky Thornton sorryI got nothin here I do find it strange that I can not remember WoO ever busting one of their regulars. Maybe coincidental who knows but it sure smells fishy. One thing I do know, WoO can't afford to suspend one of their own if they want to maintain a traveling series.

[oldfart50]

I have seen it gain over a second for over 70 laps. If it wasnt amazing no one would be doing it.

If you could gain 2 or 3 tenths that stuff must have been amazing.

[drano]

If you could gain 2 or 3 tenths that stuff must have been amazing.

[bb14]

Buying tires the day of the race won't work. Back in the 90s I helped a NASCAR All Pro team and we would inject some inside the tire before the last hot lap session and run a couple of laps. It was worth 2 or 3 tenths for qualifying. Everybody did it. Some Cup teams, really big Cup team was caught a few years ago utilizing the large digital tire pressure gauges and injecting it into the tires during pit stops.

Racers will always cheat. I feel it is stealing myself.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

'altering the face of the tire lettering and/or tire stamping will not be permitted' ...this is a quote from the rule book so rubbing the wall or another car making the tire stamp illegible would be technically illegal right?

Ask a25rjr he knows everythig about nuthn

[plunks7]

Good for the sprints. IDC about them, they have to get pushed to start. Boriiiiinnnnnngggggg

[old fan]

no you have to have a tire rule the woo sprints for example are 2 seconds quicker est but yet they have a strict tire rule

[plunks7]

It's open late models, so run open tires. Anything goes!!! Ends the guessing games, and everybody can do it if they so do choose. So if 1 guy runs 1 compound does the rest of the field have to run what he is running? Saves money on testing and anything else associated with tires. I'm more concerned about other gadgets that some get away with.

[old fan]

Why would they want to run where there not wanted anyway???Plenty o options out there if you want to race.

100 k plus might have something to do with it

[Barbecueboy]

You aren't going to rub the inside lettering off(they are on both sides of the mold). Sorry bout your luck. Try again.

True dat....

[Barbecueboy]

you can look at it like that I suppose ( glass have empty) but I see it as sign at least something is being done regardless how minute it may seem. I don't know how much recourses the racing series' have to keep up with all these high dollar teams and cheating. second, I understand that juiced tires aren't the only reason racing has become astronomically expensive , rather just a spoke in the whell amongst many other issues.

The series guys aren't stupid,they just give this tire stuff a bunch of lip service and call it a day.........its just a bad plan, and deep down , it's really a shaky mysterious enforcment effort ripe with room for error , and they know it.
They can re write a rule book for a piece that could have basically been made with thrown out bed frames but they can't figure out a better way to do tires for their events????? Pfffffffffffft.

And fwiw, I'm far from a glass 1/2 empty guy.......but I'm also far from the guy that's not going to tell the emperor that he's not wearing any clothes either.

Sorry you took me that way.

[powerslide]

'altering the face of the tire lettering and/or tire stamping will not be permitted' ...this is a quote from the rule book so rubbing the wall or another car making the tire stamp illegible would be technically illegal right?

You aren't going to rub the inside lettering off(they are on both sides of the mold). Sorry bout your luck. Try again.