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  • mndirtman
    Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 62

    #1

    The Dream Tire Appeal Hearing Monday

    2 Questions.


    1. According to Bloomer the test came back as, "nothing was added to the tire, but a chemical is missing from the tires. How can a chemical be missing from the tire and what is this chemical that is missing?

    2. When will be hear the results from the appeal?

    Thanks

    Monty
    Last edited by mndirtman; 06-27-2016, 09:00 PM. Reason: mispell
  • Highside Hustler25
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 12972

    #2
    Tomorrow I believe.
    8/13/16

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    • SLIDING SIDEWAYS
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 7658

      #3
      So bloomer is the spokes person for the appeal.

      He said " il handle this guys, i got us into this il get us out TRUST ME!
      THE REAL SLIDING SIDEWAYS!

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      • old fan
        Banned
        • Jan 2016
        • 4191

        #4
        it would be like trusting Hillary or Obama

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        • 25 Jay 53
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 2344

          #5
          Originally posted by old fan View Post
          it would be like trusting Hillary or Obama
          That means that Scott, Jimmy, Brandon, Gregg, and Ricky will all end up dead! That's a harsh penalty for tire doping.

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          • Dirt Racing #1
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2014
            • 879

            #6
            Originally posted by old fan View Post
            it would be like trusting Hillary or Obama
            Or a guy that wears a cape 😋

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            • dirtlmfan
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 196

              #7
              Originally posted by mndirtman View Post
              2 Questions.


              1. According to Bloomer the test came back as, "nothing was added to the tire, but a chemical is missing from the tires. How can a chemical be missing from the tire and what is this chemical that is missing?

              2. When will be hear the results from the appeal?

              Thanks

              Monty
              This has been happening all season with samples that have been sent to a certain lab in North Carolina. That same question has been asked by many weekly racers who's tires 'did not meet the benchmark'. While I'm not a chemical engineer, one would think if a chemical was added to a tire to neutralize another chemical in that tire, wouldn't traces of the chemical added show up? I do know for a fact that this particular lab has had samples sent in of the same tire ran two nights in a row, with absolutely nothing done to the tire, and the graphs look completely different.

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              • cutman
                Senior Member
                • May 2010
                • 1005

                #8
                Originally posted by dirtlmfan View Post
                This has been happening all season with samples that have been sent to a certain lab in North Carolina. That same question has been asked by many weekly racers who's tires 'did not meet the benchmark'. While I'm not a chemical engineer, one would think if a chemical was added to a tire to neutralize another chemical in that tire, wouldn't traces of the chemical added show up? I do know for a fact that this particular lab has had samples sent in of the same tire ran two nights in a row, with absolutely nothing done to the tire, and the graphs look completely different.
                Who are all of these other drivers that have had the same results???

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                • dirtlmfan
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 196

                  #9
                  Originally posted by cutman View Post
                  Who are all of these other drivers that have had the same results???
                  Willie Milliken, Andrew Durham, and Jeff Parsons are 3 racers just in North Carolina who were called wrong, but there have been several others. Durham was called wrong after a big modified win early in the season at Friendship. He argued this same point, but still served his suspension, paid his fine, and came back to win again, only to be called wrong with a set stickers. This whole tire thing has gotten ridiculous this season.

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                  • Barbecueboy
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 18116

                    #10
                    Originally posted by dirtlmfan View Post
                    This has been happening all season with samples that have been sent to a certain lab in North Carolina. That same question has been asked by many weekly racers who's tires 'did not meet the benchmark'. While I'm not a chemical engineer, one would think if a chemical was added to a tire to neutralize another chemical in that tire, wouldn't traces of the chemical added show up? I do know for a fact that this particular lab has had samples sent in of the same tire ran two nights in a row, with absolutely nothing done to the tire, and the graphs look completely different.
                    Hush your mouth.....labs don't make mistakes ever.....the drivers are cheaters.

                    Right guys?
                    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                    • old fan
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2016
                      • 4191

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 25 Jay 53 View Post
                      That means that Scott, Jimmy, Brandon, Gregg, and Ricky will all end up dead! That's a harsh penalty for tire doping.
                      no we will all be dead trusting those 2

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                      • oldfart50
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 252

                        #12
                        For once, you are correct...
                        Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                        Hush your mouth.....labs don't make mistakes ever.....the drivers are cheaters. Right guys?

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                        • rayburnracer18
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 106

                          #13
                          Originally posted by old fan View Post
                          it would be like trusting Hillary or Obama
                          or Trump, they're all crooked.

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                          • cgrace
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 903

                            #14
                            the tests just show tires arent same as benchmark from hoosier drivershavebitched for yearsthat doesnt takeheat and wear seems same to me plus like-3-4 years ago didnt they pause tests cause lab was having errors

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                            • dirtlmfan
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 196

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                              Hush your mouth.....labs don't make mistakes ever.....the drivers are cheaters.

                              Right guys?
                              Yeah right. And I've got some ocean front property in good ol' Wilkes County I'll sell you BBQboy. Lol.
                              The thing that I really find hard to understand is how they can determine what chemical is what. All the lab does is cook the sample and use a spectrometer to measure how dense the 'smoke' from the chemicals are at various times through the cycle. If the 'smoke' is more or less dense at certain times compared to the new sample supplied by the manufacturer, then it 'does not meet the benchmark'. Hoosier reps themselves cannot tell anyone what chemicals release out of the samples at a given cook time, much less how dense the 'smoke' will be. Wouldn't a tire that has been thru various number of heat cycles react differently than a new sample that has never been on the track?

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