The Dream Tire Appeal Hearing Monday

[old fan]

but its only life or death

[Barbecueboy]

The drivers don't even want tire altering to be legal. That is completely aside from all the health consequences of prolonged exposure to the stuff for drivers and crew members and even fans who are inhaling dust at the tracks.

So are you just speculating that treated tires throw off more carcinogenic flecks of dust than do the non treated tires??

Is there proof or is it more bad tire rule lore?

[jensenracing18]

So are you just speculating that treated tires throw off more carcinogenic flecks of dust than do the non treated tires??Is there proof or is it more bad tire rule lore?

i could imagine some truth to this..prep is coming off from the tires into the racing surface and then into the air... i know after a night of racing at the kart track with everyone on prepped tires my nose and throat are dry and sore and you can almost taste the tire prep the next day.. its nasty stuff...but it smells so good

[old fan]

gotcha bbq

[Barbecueboy]

i could imagine some truth to this..prep is coming off from the tires into the racing surface and then into the air... i know after a night of racing at the kart track with everyone on prepped tires my nose and throat are dry and sore and you can almost taste the tire prep the next day.. its nasty stuff...but it smells so good

Like you....I can only imagine it wouldn't be that great for anyone to breath in.

But I also can't imagine the carcinogens that are in non treated tires blowing all around in the air can be too good either.

That whole breathing in treated tire dust argument is just a weak attempt at fear mongoring by the status quo.......unless of course somebody has legitimate data to look at.

Neither dust is healthy, time for that argument to be proven or put to rest as fodder.

[drano]

If the prep is coming off the tire into the racing surface it seems like an untreated tire could pick it up and could then be tested as treated also.

[old fan]

but its less the 7 ounces lmfao

[Barbecueboy]

If the prep is coming off the tire into the racing surface it seems like an untreated tire could pick it up and could then be tested as treated also.

This tire conversation has no room for common sense .......please don't bring anymore into this thread.

[W2Racing09]

Like you....I can only imagine it wouldn't be that great for anyone to breath in.

But I also can't imagine the carcinogens that are in non treated tires blowing all around in the air can be too good either.

That whole breathing in treated tire dust argument is just a weak attempt at fear mongoring by the status quo.......unless of course somebody has legitimate data to look at.

Neither dust is healthy, time for that argument to be proven or put to rest as fodder.

So you are saying that you believe the dust created by untreated tires is equally unhealthy compared to dust created by treated tires? I don't think data is needed to say obviously the more chemicals added to the equation the more dangerous it becomes. Obviously neither is good for us, but I do hope to avoid dying as a result of dust inhaled at the races for as long as possible. That aside there should at least be some concern for drivers and crew members who would have to work with this stuff on a regular basis.

What is driving this sudden desire to change decades old tire rules?

Is it because your favorite driver may have been caught? I don't get it. These have been the rules pretty much forever and now that a few high profile drivers have been slapped with a penalty (which could still be overturned) everyone thinks the rules need changed? I would at the very least ask the drivers how they would feel about such a change. I see Fastrak did that and I didn't see a single driver say they wanted to be able to use tire prep.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[old fan]

if the manufacturs give a warning shouldn't heed to it for example would put ford trany fluid don't excited bbq not that kind of trany fluid lol in a gm car

[fastford]

American Racer has tried to take Hoosier to court, they lost. I agree though, there was plenty of guys who liked the AR's better, but if you aren't allowed to run them then you're SOL. Should most certainly let them back in though.

and here is the answer to all the tire problems, i have seen ARs strait off the tailor out perform the best treated hoosier out there, if all the sanctioning bodies would just switch to ARs we would all be healthier , according to W2 , and faster.....problem solved....

[cutman]

If the prep is coming off the tire into the racing surface it seems like an untreated tire could pick it up and could then be tested as treated also.

Just another excuse used by the cheats.

[Barbecueboy]

Apparently it's not just an excuse........sounds like somebody is rethinking this thing a little bit.

Stay tuned I guess?

[drano]

Just another excuse used by the cheats.

No really it's called common sense.

[Barbecueboy]

So you are saying that you believe the dust created by untreated tires is equally unhealthy compared to dust created by treated tires? I don't think data is needed to say obviously the more chemicals added to the equation the more dangerous it becomes. Obviously neither is good for us, but I do hope to avoid dying as a result of dust inhaled at the races for as long as possible. That aside there should at least be some concern for drivers and crew members who would have to work with this stuff on a regular basis.

What is driving this sudden desire to change decades old tire rules?

Is it because your favorite driver may have been caught? I don't get it. These have been the rules pretty much forever and now that a few high profile drivers have been slapped with a penalty (which could still be overturned) everyone thinks the rules need changed? I would at the very least ask the drivers how they would feel about such a change. I see Fastrak did that and I didn't see a single driver say they wanted to be able to use tire prep.

Thanks,
Jeff.

I'm not saying anything of the sort........what I'm saying is that the argument that rubber particles breathed in at a race track are bad for you no matter what is added to them by the prep and shouldn't really be used as the argument against using f prep.

There may be great reasons for not using it, but that one is weak at best.

Be like saying smoking filtered menthol is healthier than smoking non filtered menthol......like the tire dust argument,it's just stupid to even say or imply as a way of making a point on good health.