Mod - Car Counts - Central Illinois

[kidrock]

I don't have dog in this fight, but, it sure seems to me if you just got away from the Hoosier tires and go to AR's the rest would fall in order. We run USRA and the big motors/high dollar motors really don't have an advantage. I have a modest 350 stroked to 396(about $3000) and they don't pull me coming out of corners. My biggest problem is getting a real good setup for the corners where I can hammer down coming out. We also have a 8000 chip rule and is enforced. Maybe the whole problem is rules not being enforced. Probably get bashed for this but..........

No reason to bash you for your comment your just giving your honest opinion and what you said makes a lot of sense and yes if you have rules they have to be enforced.

[kidrock]

I thought the off-season b!tching and moaning was over...?

I don't see it has bitching and moaning but, guys seeing the class dwindling at a fast pace and putting their 2 cents in on what they think might help the class. Yes things can stay the same but, it won't be long and their will be more B-Mods then A-Mods. I honestly think if the B-Mods could all be on the same rules it would help that class as well but, for whatever reason different tracks have different rules and that doesn't make a much sense in my opinion but, my opinion doesn't count.

[pig tracker]

I'm not so sure the promoters aren't in cahoots with ump. They don't seem to care what is going on. That of course does not include all promoter, but most. I think the only way to change this is thru the drivers and car owners. Boycott these races. Race another series or simple take the year off and work on your cars, trailers, equipment, haulers, stocking parts, or whatever. I personally would hate to miss a year, but it sure seems that there are many, many drivers that are unhappy with the way things are now. This is suppose to be a fun hobby and we all know we can't really make money doing this, so why put up with being unhappy doing something we all love? It just might only take a few months till the promoters see the light and change series.

[backspace]

I have been a follower of races for 58 years. I have seen many things come and go,,mostly go. I think that if UMP is not going to do anything,,maybe the promoters need to get together and come up with some one to manufacture some restrictor plates for a mod class. Let me explain before you go off on a tangent,,,when you show up at the track,,trade your drivers license for a track issued plate,,this plate can have a tab on the side of it that can be seen when looking under hood by tech guy,,,now that's another story,,tech guy,,,when you are done with the nights program,,take your plate back to official and trade for your license,,The official will have a "go-no go gauge" to check the plate to see if you have been altering it,,Then you can compete against these high dollar air breathing monsters with no cost to the racer...This class is in a die mode as we talk,,,car counts continue to diminish,,,Track promoters need to take a stand now because the more you wait on UMP,,the more cars will not come....Just sayin'

[rustymod]

if it is not in the rule book it can't be enforced, do you really need a 30k motor for a 1/5 mile or a 1/4

This is the trouble. Usra would be the right direction. The car counts speak volumes. Ump needs to go.

[hygty]

I don't have dog in this fight, but, it sure seems to me if you just got away from the Hoosier tires and go to AR's the rest would fall in order. We run USRA and the big motors/high dollar motors really don't have an advantage. I have a modest 350 stroked to 396(about $3000) and they don't pull me coming out of corners. My biggest problem is getting a real good setup for the corners where I can hammer down coming out. We also have a 8000 chip rule and is enforced. Maybe the whole problem is rules not being enforced. Probably get bashed for this but..........

if it is not in the rule book it can't be enforced, do you really need a 30k motor for a 1/5 mile or a 1/4

[indyboywilliam]

Hard tires would be a very good fix among other things>>> but that would be for sure a good start

[pig tracker]

I don't have dog in this fight, but, it sure seems to me if you just got away from the Hoosier tires and go to AR's the rest would fall in order. We run USRA and the big motors/high dollar motors really don't have an advantage. I have a modest 350 stroked to 396(about $3000) and they don't pull me coming out of corners. My biggest problem is getting a real good setup for the corners where I can hammer down coming out. We also have a 8000 chip rule and is enforced. Maybe the whole problem is rules not being enforced. Probably get bashed for this but..........

[AnothaBenchRacer]

I thought the off-season b!tching and moaning was over...?

[indyboywilliam]

No gas shocks.... No adjustable shocks ....

[powerslide]

All shocks have oil... I think you are saying no monotubes?

No bulbs is probably the only thing that's easy to tech. And we all know they don't tech what they have so why add another...

[wadegarrett]

Shocks are a decent start, but to save the class you need Hard cheaper tireSome sort of engine rules, even minor like no roller camsActual techPossibly rules limiting suspension

[indyboywilliam]

What about a shock rule yea or ney?

I say OIL SHOCK ONLY ... With a Claim on shocks

[hygty]

I know what you guys are saying but car counts are down in most very classexcept maybe late models where its stable as far as the mods put them on three link and h's all the way around and I would make the ct 525 an option

[modracr41]

As a Mod Fan, I guess I am a little concerned about the low car counts at some of the tracks we travel to throughout the season. These are the number of Mods that were listed in the Features from this last weekends results:

Friday - May 1
Fayette County - 10
Farmer City - 17
Vermilion County - ? (cannot find results anywhere, but FB posts indicate low count)

Saturday - May 2
Charleston - 11
Macon - 11
Route 45 - 11 (This was a $1,500 to win special)
Fairbury - 20

I am hopeful that this is just an early season trend and the counts get better for all. There are a lot more Mods out there than LM's and my hope is that they remain a stronghold for these tracks.

Say it ain't so!! I've been predicting this for a few years now and no one wants to hear it. This happened almost 10 years ago now in Texas and it's coming due to racers pricing themselves out. In the Houston area, 10 years ago there were 6 tracks that ran UMP modifieds as the headline show on a weekly basis. Now, there aren't ANY! Most of the A-mod drivers now run Southern Sport mods if they run at all. 1 track, Willis Tx, now runs IMCA sanctioned in an attempt to try to salvage the class. We'll see how that goes, but if UMP doesn't do something, Driggers and Co will be sitting home trying to figure out what to do each weekend because it won't be racing.