Thanks Dynoman!

[djshockley]

Funny how dyno's psi recommendations have changed during this thread. Started out @ 5.5-6 and is now saying 4-5. Hmmm.

[50j]

That's because it's off the cuff b.s. 12 jet sizes for the fuel? Not realistic even if you go from Sunoco Standard 110 with a sg of .729 to the oxygenated fuel. Sunoco can tell you that if you ask.
Dauderman is a good driver and could win with parts that aren't anything special. Someone was born 200 years too late and belongs in front of a covered wagon selling Dr. Smith's Miracle Elixer (whiskey). All about the "sizzle"", right? Just figure out how to do something and be honest. Sheesh!

[sj valley dave]

Wow! I caught the fuel pressure change requirements, but totally missed the "12" jet size changes...Wow, so on a 4412 we are going to go from 73's to 85's...LMAO

[smokinjoe]

dynoman

--- On Thu, 4/26/12, Mark Mancinelli <mancinelli@att.net> wrote:


From: Mark Mancinelli <mancinelli@att.net>
Subject: Your 604 is finished and it is a HOG !!!
To: "Tim and Cindy Ratajczyk" <trat112@htc.net>
Date: Thursday, April 26, 2012, 1:26 AM


Tim,
Don't tell anybody but your US made block on the second time around really came to life and kicked out some serious power.


My original quote on freshening up your old engine was $3500-$4000. I was able to do that and keep under budget at $3400 on the rebuild and machining. The additions were:
Canadian head castings$1100
ring pack $200,
stock cam & blu-printed lifters $650,
Carb work & 18 Chassis dyno pulls $525 picked up +11HP
Extra set of springs $149 ( $50 discount )
2 extra gallons of Alien engine oil and filter $149


$3500
+$1950 Engine parts above.
+ $525 Carb Work
+ $298 Springs and Oil
======
$6273
- $1500 Pmt #1
- $1200 Pmt #2
======
$3573 Balance Due
or
$4468 with carb #1


Balance due can with paypal or with Wal-Mart Money Gram.


I will end up covering the dyno day this time around to save you some $$$ as it is an additional cost of $550.


If you want the extra carb I built and dyno'd with the engine that is +13HP better than your upgraded carb. If you want to purchase that one it would be your carb and additional $895 ( $150 savings over purchase $1595 ).


Engine made 438HP with QFT & 451HP with Carb#1.


Additional tested items :
HPD headers arer +13HP over Schoenfelds ( $1795 headers, saddle flanges, extensions and mufflers
HPD modified water pump and pulleys +9HP over MotorState
( $725 )


Original baseline old engine 387HP
Baseline new engine 1st pull 403HP
Baseline after break-in 427HP
QFT Carb work 438HP
Carb #1 451HP
HPD headers 464HP
HPD water pump / Pulleys 471HP
VP C-12 over mix +4HP 475HP
Sunoco 98 & VP 98 UNL 476HP
VP CHP 482HP


The engine pulls strong up to 6800 but since the head ports are small it drops down above there.


That is the most I have ever gotten out of a UMP style crate.


Engine should be ready to pick-up Thursday about 1pm at the soonest.


You can e-mail me back as I still don't have my cel back from KBM, they shipped it to my (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) shop and I am not there when I am on Darrels dyno.


I would rather have you miss a race that you would not have won with the engine the way it was, and go out and win some right off the bat with a "killer" piece.




Thanks for you patience,
Mark



Mark this is the email from you to me showing i paid for the carb work.I dont know where you came up with the fastrack line of bull(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) My motor is a ump motor and was not fastrack sealed.By the way how is it your motor when i sent you a motor and paid you 6200 hundred dollars to rebuild. I can also paste the email from me to you telling you i did not want the headers.Actually i should paste every email between you and i it would make interesting reading,as stated earlier i have every one of them with the last email from you to me in may.I was done with this thread until you started talking trash about me not paying for things that is not how i am or ever will be.

[smokinjoe]

dynoman

One more thing mark . I currently have the used willys carb for sale for 500 dollars.So at a 400 dollar loss im the one that feels lucky to cut my ties with you. If you lie or trash talk about me on here again i will start pasting more emails between you and i,one at a time for every time this happens.Also money is not a problem but there comes a time when you have to say enough is enough.

[sj valley dave]

Wow...a $725 waterpump..9 hp over Motostate...wonder how much over a good $275 Adams?? Just curious...

[Egoracing]

How many times has Dyno posted on here that he does not build engines?

[TeamGRT12x]

Is this guy serious, or does he just get off telling stories?

[bob62]

I have one of his internally balanced oil filters spins on real nice, no wobbles

[dynoman14]

3rd Place at $20K to w in Crate Race in Swainsboro

Special thanks to Michael Page and Rick Brady for running my laydown $hit at the $20K to win Crate Race at Swainsboro.

They ran 3rd with Treated GM Springs, Plugs, Oil and Filter ( Power-Pack Special +25RWHP ).

We should have a deal in place real soon for some races in 2013 with a complete drive-train program.

[dynoman14]

EGO,
Never said I did not build engines, I said I did not certify crate engines.
I have never doubted the fact that you know what you are talking about you are just an A$$hole in the way you treat people on this sight that you have a differing opinion with.
I am proud you could run only half the races and finish in the top of the points...what does that say about your competition?

Most places I ever raced you had to run the whole season just to make it into the top 20, Lanier Raceway, PeachStateSpeeday, Dixie Speedway, Rome Speedway, & ARCA; Daytona, Talladega, Charlotte, Atlanta, Pocono, Nashville, just saying.

Did you really sell that all-aluminum engine on e-bay for $6600 ? Man what a steal that was. I just paid $2600 for a nice used aluminum block, it had a 55mm cam tunnel and roller cam bearings with Titanium main caps and studs. Most everything else on the block including the fuel pump, motor mounts and bell housing has been milled off by LSM.


SJ Dave,
A good ADAMS crate pump is about 2-3rwhp better than a MotorState ( depending on how you drive it ), and an Adams with a special restrictor plate impeller is about 7-9 better than a stock ADAMS. I have been using Carls stuff since Howard Stewart shut down and sold his place. As much as you post on here about your racing endeavors I am sure you would have spent some time on they dyno learning something or would you just rather make negative comments about other peoples work?

Tim,
Tim if you are not that way how come you told me to go ahead with the crate headers, and that you wanted the water pump and ignition system I dyno'd the engine with and after I rounded up the stuff for you, you stopped answering my e-mails or phone calls??? I still have them sitting here.

ALSO...
Better let the buyer of that crate engine know that it will need to be inspected and re-sealed before he races with Fastrak as you never applied for a Fastrak Licence and transferred ownership to you. I did not see anything you posted about the deal we had for me to buy that engine back if you got ready to sell it.

My last e-mail offer to you was complete refund of your $895 once you return my Willy's loaner carb and the QFT Carb I already Credited you $525 for.

I am sorry you feel slighted, I removed the $525 QFT Charge from your invoice so you paid a net of $370 for the original 830ADB carb I shipped you. When that one did not work, I overnited you the Willys I had just re-built that was a BDR back-up for a year and probably 10 wins, at my personal cost of over $200, so you would have something while I checked the 830 ADB Carb u shipped back to me.

I checked the 830 ADB carb and the floats were set about 6 turns too high and the titanium needles were imbedded into the seats from excessive fuel pressure. I re-set the float heights and install new needles and shipped the 830 ADB carb to Bobby to test run to make sure it would be fine for you. After he ran it the next week and won with it I was planning on swapping it back to you but you never returned my texts or calls and your nephew texted me said you thought my stuff was junk and you would not be running it any more.


Fuel Pressure comments-
As far as the rest of the morons on here commenting on my changing fuel pressures...I dyno all of my race engines up to 850HP at 4-5PSI, the needles and seats I use will accomodate that much power with minimal fuel pressure as long as volume is adequate. The fuel pumps I use on my engines are valved for maximum volume and pressure at about 5psi. If a customer does not opt for the fuel pump I dyno the engine with, I recommend a max of 5-6psi with over the counter pumps.

50j,
Once again your genius shines, maybe you should be checking the differences between Oxygenated Green Sunoco and Sunoco 110, it has similarities to most like VP or others and the jet differences are usually 8-10. Since my carbs are significantly smaller on jet well and jet well orifices it takes a larger jet size to make an equivalent change in #/HR of fuel delivery. Maybe if you knew a little about how a carburetor works you would understand that. And another thing you and your idiot band of merry men might not understand if you build a carburetor to have less fuel in the signal path of a much larger displacement it leaves more room for air...therefore it is easier to increase the V.E. of an engine with a bigger CFM Carburetor metering less fuel than it is designed for but still keeping the booster signal high so the fuel draw stays consistent thru the entire range of engine vacuum. Why do you think Restrictor Plate Nascar engines used to run 830ADB carbs??? Not just because they were big, those engines only made 450HP which was way low for close to 950cfms of air.

Wonder why? maybe one of you geniuses con post something intelligent on the subject.

[smokinjoe]

Dynoman

--- On Sun, 5/6/12, Tim and Cindy Ratajczyk <trat112@htc.net> wrote:


From: Tim and Cindy Ratajczyk <trat112@htc.net>
Subject: Re: Carb and Headers
To: "Mark Mancinelli" <mancinelli@att.net>
Date: Sunday, May 6, 2012, 9:28 PM


Mark if you can get the carb out monday that would be great cause i need it by thursday.our next series race is friday in kentucky so we will be leaving mid day friday.paducah is a big track and i think the carb will really help.what headers are you talking about from beyea.are these the custom headers that are 1750 if so i might have to wait on these till i get a little more money put back in the racing fund. Thanks Tim

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Mark , the first email shows i told you to wait on the headers.The second email is a confirmation of payment for 895 dollars for you carb.Plus i already paid you 525 for work on my Qft carb, so i really dont know how you think i only paid 370 net for your carb.Their was never an agreement between you and i for you to buy MY motor back.Also i dont know where this fastrak stuff came from there is not a fastrak sanctioned track around here within 3 hrs.I dont care about fastrak this is ump country.Furthermore i didnt just sell my crate motor i sold a complete turn key racecar to an old racer buddys nephew which will be run in ump.I have not received anything from you since i paid this invoice. Like i said i am really done with you and this unless you want to call me. 314-971-2927

[TeamGRT12x]

Fellers, just got in from the super shop. I have been tuning a 2x4 block of wood for pure speed. If you buy it and carry it with you, with my super titanium nails and glue, you will win every race. I'm about to name drop so it could get lengthy.

[DaveBauerSS6]

EGO,
Never said I did not build engines, I said I did not certify crate engines.
I have never doubted the fact that you know what you are talking about you are just an A$$hole in the way you treat people on this sight that you have a differing opinion with.
I am proud you could run only half the races and finish in the top of the points...what does that say about your competition?

Most places I ever raced you had to run the whole season just to make it into the top 20, Lanier Raceway, PeachStateSpeeday, Dixie Speedway, Rome Speedway, & ARCA; Daytona, Talladega, Charlotte, Atlanta, Pocono, Nashville, just saying.

Did you really sell that all-aluminum engine on e-bay for $6600 ? Man what a steal that was. I just paid $2600 for a nice used aluminum block, it had a 55mm cam tunnel and roller cam bearings with Titanium main caps and studs. Most everything else on the block including the fuel pump, motor mounts and bell housing has been milled off by LSM.


SJ Dave,
A good ADAMS crate pump is about 2-3rwhp better than a MotorState ( depending on how you drive it ), and an Adams with a special restrictor plate impeller is about 7-9 better than a stock ADAMS. I have been using Carls stuff since Howard Stewart shut down and sold his place. As much as you post on here about your racing endeavors I am sure you would have spent some time on they dyno learning something or would you just rather make negative comments about other peoples work?

Tim,
Tim if you are not that way how come you told me to go ahead with the crate headers, and that you wanted the water pump and ignition system I dyno'd the engine with and after I rounded up the stuff for you, you stopped answering my e-mails or phone calls??? I still have them sitting here.

ALSO...
Better let the buyer of that crate engine know that it will need to be inspected and re-sealed before he races with Fastrak as you never applied for a Fastrak Licence and transferred ownership to you. I did not see anything you posted about the deal we had for me to buy that engine back if you got ready to sell it.

My last e-mail offer to you was complete refund of your $895 once you return my Willy's loaner carb and the QFT Carb I already Credited you $525 for.

I am sorry you feel slighted, I removed the $525 QFT Charge from your invoice so you paid a net of $370 for the original 830ADB carb I shipped you. When that one did not work, I overnited you the Willys I had just re-built that was a BDR back-up for a year and probably 10 wins, at my personal cost of over $200, so you would have something while I checked the 830 ADB Carb u shipped back to me.

I checked the 830 ADB carb and the floats were set about 6 turns too high and the titanium needles were imbedded into the seats from excessive fuel pressure. I re-set the float heights and install new needles and shipped the 830 ADB carb to Bobby to test run to make sure it would be fine for you. After he ran it the next week and won with it I was planning on swapping it back to you but you never returned my texts or calls and your nephew texted me said you thought my stuff was junk and you would not be running it any more.


Fuel Pressure comments-
As far as the rest of the morons on here commenting on my changing fuel pressures...I dyno all of my race engines up to 850HP at 4-5PSI, the needles and seats I use will accomodate that much power with minimal fuel pressure as long as volume is adequate. The fuel pumps I use on my engines are valved for maximum volume and pressure at about 5psi. If a customer does not opt for the fuel pump I dyno the engine with, I recommend a max of 5-6psi with over the counter pumps.

50j,
Once again your genius shines, maybe you should be checking the differences between Oxygenated Green Sunoco and Sunoco 110, it has similarities to most like VP or others and the jet differences are usually 8-10. Since my carbs are significantly smaller on jet well and jet well orifices it takes a larger jet size to make an equivalent change in #/HR of fuel delivery. Maybe if you knew a little about how a carburetor works you would understand that. And another thing you and your idiot band of merry men might not understand if you build a carburetor to have less fuel in the signal path of a much larger displacement it leaves more room for air...therefore it is easier to increase the V.E. of an engine with a bigger CFM Carburetor metering less fuel than it is designed for but still keeping the booster signal high so the fuel draw stays consistent thru the entire range of engine vacuum. Why do you think Restrictor Plate Nascar engines used to run 830ADB carbs??? Not just because they were big, those engines only made 450HP which was way low for close to 950cfms of air.

Wonder why? maybe one of you geniuses con post something intelligent on the subject.

Mark,,, whats the accuracy of a chassis dyno you are using, brand?

I know years ago Superflow was at +/- 1%. Using that number, on a 400 hp motor is -4 hp to +4 hp. The water pump hp difference is well within the in accuracy of the dyno.

[TeamGRT12x]

Dave,

His dyno over-rates products by at least 10%. Don't forget that.