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  • talclipse
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 738

    #106
    The problem with measuring the thickness is it doesnt address the issue of someone using an insert inside the tube (tungsten/ lead). Unfortunately the only way I see to tech this is to weigh the rear end assembly.

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    • Kromulous
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 3008

      #107
      Who is gonna tech this tuff? Serously?

      Have to go to a race at 9am just to get in tech line to make hot laps at 6pm.

      Its gonna be NASCAR all over again.

      Time to sell...

      Just say no...

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      • MBR Performance
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2014
        • 199

        #108
        The best idea is to leave it alone and quit trying to have a rule for every (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) thing. Diversity breeds competition.

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        • Matt49
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 3123

          #109
          Originally posted by MBR Performance View Post
          The best idea is to leave it alone and quit trying to have a rule for every (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) thing. Diversity breeds competition.
          And we have a winner...

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          • fastford
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 4059

            #110
            im with you guys, leave it alone, only rule should be for safety, meaning how the weight is attached , or any thing that appears to be a safety hazard. if there is no danger ,then who cares how much the left rear weighs.

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            • Brian Gray
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 1102

              #111
              Do you plan on floating that lead insert on some kind of superconductors? Then you would be able to hide it from a sonic tester. Look this goes beyond innovation you cannot just let it all go, we tried that once in case many of you forgot or haven't been alive that long.
              Shocks by BGR army

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              • Bubstr
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 3734

                #112
                Too many rules now. This took a cheap bolt on weight and turned it into a expensive tube and bird cage that can't be checked easy. Make the bolts strong enough and no one has an advantage. If it is not enforceable, it is a bad rule.

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                • fastford
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 4059

                  #113
                  seems to me if i wanted to use a steel left rear tube , an all steel left rear bird cage made from 1/2 in plate and an old steel wide 5 hub on left rear, whats wrong with that? i think it would achieve the same results. When you ( rule makers) start telling us how much each side of the rear has to weigh, then i say nascar is here........

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                  • powerslide
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 2696

                    #114
                    Originally posted by fastford View Post
                    seems to me if i wanted to use a steel left rear tube , an all steel left rear bird cage made from 1/2 in plate and an old steel wide 5 hub on left rear, whats wrong with that? i think it would achieve the same results. When you ( rule makers) start telling us how much each side of the rear has to weigh, then i say nascar is here........
                    That would be great but guys take it to the extreme and everyone in the monkey see monkey do goes out and buys the unobtanium as well instead of bolting on lead. Have to do something to keep cost in check. I feel like they missed the boat on wide bore motors so they are trying to do something the past couple seasons, right wrong or indifferent.

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                    • stock car driver
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 3233

                      #115
                      If your fine with adding rotating weight just put 5 gallons of water in your lr tire... youll get massive amounts of tire distortion and traction and it wont leave the lr.

                      My rock crawler has 200lbs in each front tire.. Its only noticeable from a dead stop, the 3800 converter gets up there a lot higher than it did when there was no fluid in my front tires.

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                      • over4T
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2015
                        • 1110

                        #116
                        What do you put in the front tires to gain 200 lbs.? It sure isn't water.

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                        • MasterSbilt_Racer
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 14324

                          #117
                          Originally posted by powerslide View Post
                          That would be great but guys take it to the extreme and everyone in the monkey see monkey do goes out and buys the unobtanium as well instead of bolting on lead. Have to do something to keep cost in check. I feel like they missed the boat on wide bore motors so they are trying to do something the past couple seasons, right wrong or indifferent.
                          That is only a problem if the unobtainium gives you an advantage.
                          Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                          • stock car driver
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 3233

                            #118
                            Originally posted by over4T View Post
                            What do you put in the front tires to gain 200 lbs.? It sure isn't water.
                            Water and anti freeze. 50/50.

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                            • fastford
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 4059

                              #119
                              i saw a guy try the water thing one time in an old EC3 tire, the whole rear end would hop off the ground when he tried to get up to speed , funniest thing i ever saw a race car do. i guess the distortion got it all out of balance or something. By the way, thats is a nice looking machine there SCD.

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                              • stock car driver
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 3233

                                #120
                                I have no issues at 65 or up and down speed. I never tried it in my race car tire.

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