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  • a25rjr
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 3774

    #61
    How would a sanctioning body tech tungsten, esp if lr componenets could be made out of it?
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    • billetbirdcage
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 2020

      #62
      Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
      How would a sanctioning body tech tungsten, esp if lr componenets could be made out of it?
      A magnet!!

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      • a25rjr
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 3774

        #63
        Originally posted by billetbirdcage View Post
        A magnet!!
        LOL obviously! I was really referring to the weight of them. Are they planning to weigh them somehow?
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        • MasterSbilt_Racer
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 14324

          #64
          Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
          LOL obviously! I was really referring to the weight of them. Are they planning to weigh them somehow?
          Considering their failings with the tape measure, unlikely!
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          • MasterSbilt_Racer
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 14324

            #65
            Originally posted by billetbirdcage View Post
            A magnet!!
            maybe a geiger counter for uranium tubes! lol
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            • Renegade Cust Susp
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 349

              #66
              Best answer

              Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
              maybe a geiger counter for uranium tubes! lol
              You sir win the interweb with this response
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              • rakracing
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2014
                • 218

                #67
                Actually heard from a good source of someone on the tour running a tungsten lr hub , and guys filling the lr hub with lead.

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                • billetbirdcage
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 2020

                  #68
                  Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                  LOL obviously! I was really referring to the weight of them. Are they planning to weigh them somehow?
                  I seriously doubt they are going to try to put some weight rule on components, the terms they used as to be discussed can be interpreted several ways. I think many are thinking they are going to say no heavy axle tubes or what not, but I'd say they are just going to outlaw exotic materials like tungsten, titanium, and etc.

                  Just wait a couple weeks and see if they pass what they are talking about doing on a couple of whole different items. If they do, you will see the cost get driven up a ton for certain things. Nothing like taking something many do that is cheap as hell now and try to outlaw it, but there is a 1000 ways around it (which or how many ways is dependent on how they write these new rules) and many of them are going to cost 5 to 100 times what it costs now.

                  They can't or won't tech a body, but they are talking of making more rules that is gonna require possibly dynoing a shock to make sure it's legal or having to put the coilover on a smasher to verify you aren't illegal.

                  Hell, I wouldn't even sweat the fuel cell, fire suppression, or seat crap after the first race of the year. Hell if it looks half way like what it's supposed to be, they won't ever tech it anyways left alone look for a SFI sticker. I'd bet a 1000.00 I could take a Nitrous bottle and paint it white and slap some fake fire company sticker on it and it'd pass their inspection for fire suppression.

                  With the fire suppression rule I'm wondering how long before the first crate car that's gonna get caught with Nitrous????????

                  I might even take all the safety stuff off an new SFI approved cell or disable it just to go thru tech to prove the point that they don't or can't tech for $HIT.

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                  • manwplan
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 351

                    #69
                    Originally posted by rakracing View Post
                    Actually heard from a good source of someone on the tour running a tungsten lr hub , and guys filling the lr hub with lead.
                    That's insane. While there are reasons for increasing unsprung weight, under no circumstances would you ever want to increase rotating weight.

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                    • GRT62
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 177

                      #70
                      so how long till we see tungsten bird cages on the market?

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                      • Renegade Cust Susp
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 349

                        #71
                        Tungsten b/c

                        Originally posted by GRT62 View Post
                        so how long till we see tungsten bird cages on the market?
                        They are already among us
                        Broc Burton
                        go.fast.crs@gmail.com

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                        • MasterSbilt_Racer
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 14324

                          #72
                          Originally posted by manwplan View Post
                          That's insane. While there are reasons for increasing unsprung weight, under no circumstances would you ever want to increase rotating weight.
                          Are you sure about that?
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                          • manwplan
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 351

                            #73
                            Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                            Are you sure about that?
                            In this instance I'm quite sure. Do you realize the brake forces required to slow down that heavy rotating mass once it got moving?

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                            • MasterSbilt_Racer
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 14324

                              #74
                              Originally posted by manwplan View Post
                              In this instance I'm quite sure. Do you realize the brake forces required to slow down that heavy rotating mass once it got moving?
                              Yes I am. We typically don't tax the brakes that badly. And when you have 300 ft-lbs more torque than it takes to spin the wheels, inertia is free, legal traction control.

                              The davis units were designed to limit rpm sweep rate. What does inertia do?
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                              • a25rjr
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2016
                                • 3774

                                #75
                                Originally posted by billetbirdcage View Post
                                I seriously doubt they are going to try to put some weight rule on components, the terms they used as to be discussed can be interpreted several ways. I think many are thinking they are going to say no heavy axle tubes or what not, but I'd say they are just going to outlaw exotic materials like tungsten, titanium, and etc.

                                Just wait a couple weeks and see if they pass what they are talking about doing on a couple of whole different items. If they do, you will see the cost get driven up a ton for certain things. Nothing like taking something many do that is cheap as hell now and try to outlaw it, but there is a 1000 ways around it (which or how many ways is dependent on how they write these new rules) and many of them are going to cost 5 to 100 times what it costs now.

                                They can't or won't tech a body, but they are talking of making more rules that is gonna require possibly dynoing a shock to make sure it's legal or having to put the coilover on a smasher to verify you aren't illegal.

                                Hell, I wouldn't even sweat the fuel cell, fire suppression, or seat crap after the first race of the year. Hell if it looks half way like what it's supposed to be, they won't ever tech it anyways left alone look for a SFI sticker. I'd bet a 1000.00 I could take a Nitrous bottle and paint it white and slap some fake fire company sticker on it and it'd pass their inspection for fire suppression.

                                With the fire suppression rule I'm wondering how long before the first crate car that's gonna get caught with Nitrous????????

                                I might even take all the safety stuff off an new SFI approved cell or disable it just to go thru tech to prove the point that they don't or can't tech for $HIT.
                                I was referring to exotic materials being used for suspension components (bird cages, hubs, wheel spacers).

                                LOL...as far as the nitrous bottle deal....I know someone very well who was using one.....but not for fire suppression (but had the sticker on it)...LOL
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