Needing setup information on 2010 mastersbilt by mars late model

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  • Hoyt3383
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2017
    • 22

    #16
    Spins out on the gas

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    • Hoyt3383
      Junior Member
      • Apr 2017
      • 22

      #17
      Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
      Spins out before you pick up gas, but tight in? Wheel spin, but 3wheeling? I can be no help here.
      I pm'ed you

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      • MachineMasters
        Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 74

        #18
        smh @ Mars.. it's not rocket science. What are the chances you'll ever buy anything from them now that they've been zero help? The info below took about 2 minutes to type.

        Can't help with the 4-link locations - never had a Masters with 7 hole brackets. At full droop you want the left top link to be around 47 degrees. If you get too much upper left bar angle, the back of the car will want to jump out on restarts.

        17.5" upper links, 15.5" lower links. Can lengthen both leftside links 2 turns and shorten RS links 2 turns to tighten the car some.

        springs and bite # sounds normal.

        3 3/4" LF ride height
        3 5/8" RF ride height
        7 1/2" RR ride height
        8 1/2" - 9" LR ride height

        54.5 - 55% LS
        54.5 - 55% R
        with driver

        I forget the LR chain measurement.. I think at full droop you want to be about 12 5/8" to 12 3/4" from the top of the LR tube to the bottom of the LR frame rail.

        As for what the car is doing now.. what length j-bar? Does it mount to the center of the bar on the frame side? If not, it should.. I think 21" long j-bar is needed for that.
        Last edited by MachineMasters; 04-06-2017, 09:22 AM.

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        • Hoyt3383
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2017
          • 22

          #19
          21" jbar it center of the square tubing that the frame mount bolts to. 9 1/2 inch up measuring from the bottom of the chassis to center of the bolt. Bottom of the pinion ( about 2" below the center of the u joint

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          • MasterSbilt_Racer
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 14324

            #20
            Way too much j bar. Go to 8.5 on chassis and more like 1/2" below pinion.
            Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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            • MasterSbilt_Racer
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 14324

              #21
              Get your bar angles so that RR upper is around 20 degrees. RR lower 0 to plus 3. LR upper 25 range and LR lower 7ish. I ran drop where axle to underside of frame rail was 13.5"

              If you have 33"/35" rear, inside of torque arm plate to center of RR frame rail is 16".
              Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 04-06-2017, 11:14 AM.
              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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              • Hoyt3383
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2017
                • 22

                #22
                Will do. Appreciate you

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                • Hoyt3383
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 22

                  #23
                  What should side to side be measuring from the 5th arm bracket to the center of the RR frame rail?

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                  • Hoyt3383
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 22

                    #24
                    How much bite to start with?

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                    • MasterSbilt_Racer
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 14324

                      #25
                      I would leave your springs and scale numbers where they are for now.
                      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                      • Hoyt3383
                        Junior Member
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 22

                        #26
                        Thanks. I'll keep you posted

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                        • TheJet-09
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 1616

                          #27
                          And if it has S-7 spindles by chance, the front ride heights are then 3 1/2" on both sides. I have/had an '07 Mars Smackdown and learned that taking LR weight out (bite) had a much better effect on side bite (and overall traction off) than moving the J-Bar/adding angle. Don't be afraid to get down to 50-80# of bite. They also have a lot of RR trail built into the mounts (RR is about 3/4" farther back than the LR at ride height). So don't be afraid to move the LR way back (I ran LR links that were 1/2" longer than what it calls for. I heard Babb ran the LR 1" further back when he was in a MasterSbilt). By comparison, look at where the LR wheel is in relation to the wheel opening on some of these Rockets and Club 29 cars when they go out for the feature. You'd think something was broken on the rear suspension!

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                          • a25rjr
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 3774

                            #28
                            We never ran that heavy of fifth coil either, usually 275/300.
                            Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                            • MasterSbilt_Racer
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 14324

                              #29
                              Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                              We never ran that heavy of fifth coil either, usually 275/300.
                              I never ran that light.
                              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 14324

                                #30
                                A 2010 Smackdown can come off the corner. Watch the 33 win the race.

                                Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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