Needing setup information on 2010 mastersbilt by mars late model

[Hoyt3383]

Found two problems. 1) bent RF spring,2) RF shock didn't have and has in it . Also the jbar being to high on the chassis

[MachineMasters]

Found two problems. 1) bent RF spring,2) RF shock didn't have and has in it . Also the jbar being to high on the chassis

Personally, I think the j-bar height was okay.. but I always ran D55 tires in my Masters.

300lb 5th coil with 1/4 - 3/8" preload is what I ran.

If it has S7 front suspension, I'd still cheat the RF ride height up a little bit... I was upwards of 4 1/4" RF ride height with a 400/700 stack. Was the only way I could get enough travel without digging the cross member or front strut bolt into the ground.

[Hoyt3383]

Running Hoosier 1350's. has regular smackdown spindles on it 660hp, integra ida's, steel block brodix heads.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Personally, I think the j-bar height was okay.. but I always ran D55 tires in my Masters.

300lb 5th coil with 1/4 - 3/8" preload is what I ran.

If it has S7 front suspension, I'd still cheat the RF ride height up a little bit... I was upwards of 4 1/4" RF ride height with a 400/700 stack. Was the only way I could get enough travel without digging the cross member or front strut bolt into the ground.

We typically ran the shorter bar. But, it is easy to replace the rear suspension with the j bar on those cars.

[a25rjr]

A 2010 Smackdown can come off the corner. Watch the 33 win the race.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24f2RtJ3ppc

That's what we had. Remember, Im in the south with all that sand!

[Hoyt3383]

Car looked good in the video buddy.

[Renegade Cust Susp]

A 2010 Smackdown can come off the corner. Watch the 33 win the race.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24f2RtJ3ppc

Having a good wheelman never hurts the cause either.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Having a good wheelman never hurts the cause either.

Certainly not. Lol. Especially when you are missing quite a bit of other stuff that you have to have $$ for.

[Matt49]

Definitely WAY too much j-bar angle. Go with what MasterSbilt_Racer suggested. My guess is that you are way too tight getting in and having to pitch the car in the center. Which is causing you to have no remaining traction to get off the corner. The excessive j-bar angle is the reason the car is falling on the RR and thus toting the LF.
Front ride heights for a standard smack car depend on which style spindles you're running. The numbers MachineMasters provided are for the original smack spindles. Almost anybody that ever ran a smack car past 2010 eventually ended up on the S-7 front end. The car will turn much better. That being said, I'm not sure the exact differences in the MB by Mars. To Machine Masters point, that's a real crock that they won't provide even the most basic starting points for you. I can understand not doing R&D on older stuff but they should at least have some setup sheets laying around.

[Hoyt3383]

No information what so ever. I've talked to them 3 times and said they would see if they had anything they could email me, and NOTHING!. I was able to get ahold of the original owner of the car who won a ton of races in it and he still has all the notes and information on the car. He is supposed to be calling me back tonight

[racer2e]

He is right though. I called Chris Mars about 6 months ago and asked about the Birkhofer spindles. He told me he had never heard of them and had no idea what I was talking about and didn't remember anything about when they ran Masterbilts. He was willing to sell me an MB customs car. I told him I had never heard of them.

[a25rjr]

I never ran that light.

On our 2008, we usually ended up on a 325-350, in the first hole, come feature time. It seemed to really help that year of car. Of course, no one was adjusting lr hike at that time. That car responded real well to indexing the lr birdcage as well.