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  • powerslide
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 2696

    #16
    What area are you from? I'm sure someone on here can suggest a good machine shop. Might be worth it if you don't have any engine building tools to get someone to assemble you a short block. As pointed out if you are new you don't need 650hp. Its easier to drive an under powered car. Checkout all the IMCA crate cars winning.

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    • Bob Hubbard
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 1048

      #17
      My buddy has a deal in the works now .... I was just looking to see what the options were .... Thanks for all the help .... This is a big learning curve ..
      Last edited by Bob Hubbard; 12-30-2015, 03:24 PM.
      Retired - Snowbird ... Living the Dream

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      • Bob Hubbard
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2008
        • 1048

        #18
        Another question ....Why do alot of racers build a new chassis each year ? Ive seen alot of rollers for sale only ran one season .... With the chassis being the same why build a new one ....
        Last edited by Bob Hubbard; 12-31-2015, 03:57 AM. Reason: spelling
        Retired - Snowbird ... Living the Dream

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        • MasterSbilt_Racer
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 14307

          #19
          Originally posted by Bob Hubbard View Post
          Another question ....Why do alot of racers build a new chassis each year ? Ive seen alot of rollers for sale only ran one season .... With the chassis being the same why build a new one ....
          If you can afford to do it, you buy new and sell your used for a decent price. It ensures your stuff is new and fresh. Sure, the car is good for 3 years or so, but you have to do PMs and replace worn stuff. If you leave that to someone else, your stuff is always tip top.
          Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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          • Bob Hubbard
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 1048

            #20
            What are the 3 most important things a new team/driver does wrong during the learning process of getting into mod racing ..... Maybe the most over looked too .... My buddy keeps telling me its way harder than it looks from the grandstands ....
            Retired - Snowbird ... Living the Dream

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            • save the racers
              Senior Member
              • May 2013
              • 271

              #21
              As a driver
              1. staying calm
              2.be consistent every lap
              3. telling what the car is doing
              As a crew
              1.Maintenance
              2.Establishing a base line setup
              3.Know when to make changes and what changes to make

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              • HEAVY DUTY
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 796

                #22
                Maintainence, and knowing how to maintain a car. Racecars shouldn't sqeak, and brakes shouldn't drag. Tires shouldn't be shiny. Understand how to set up a car. It is best to let an accomplished racer who has a good feel for a car drive your car and make sure it is OK. If you don't know what you are supposed to feel, how do you know if a problem is the car or driver? Don't put too much motor in the car. Too much motor makes it hard for experienced drivers to drive. Don't try and race, before you learn to drive. I see new guys go out and try to keep up with the faster cars before they learn car control. They wreck a lot, and tear other peoples stuff up. Stay out of the way and make laps until you are capable of racing with others. One more thing I can add. Spend money on what is needed. Make your car competitive, and keep good tires on it, instead of buying T shirts, websites, and numbers for the back window. Fancy painted helmets cost more than a set of tires, and don't make you faster. A 250 dollar drivers suit will stop fire the same as a 1500 dollar custom embroidered suit. I have seen guys that have t shirts and fan cards, before they ever had a racecar. Spend your money wisely, there is never enough for what you need, don't spend it on wants.
                Last edited by HEAVY DUTY; 01-13-2016, 08:41 AM.

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                • JustAddDirt
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 1893

                  #23
                  newbie

                  Originally posted by HEAVY DUTY View Post
                  Maintainence, and knowing how to maintain a car. Racecars shouldn't sqeak, and brakes shouldn't drag. Tires shouldn't be shiny. Understand how to set up a car. It is best to let an accomplished racer who has a good feel for a car drive your car and make sure it is OK. If you don't know what you are supposed to feel, how do you know if a problem is the car or driver? Don't put too much motor in the car. Too much motor makes it hard for experienced drivers to drive. Don't try and race, before you learn to drive. I see new guys go out and try to keep up with the faster cars before they learn car control. They wreck a lot, and tear other peoples stuff up. Stay out of the way and make laps until you are capable of racing with others. One more thing I can add. Spend money on what is needed. Make your car competitive, and keep good tires on it, instead of buying T shirts, websites, and numbers for the back window. Fancy painted helmets cost more than a set of tires, and don't make you faster. A 250 dollar drivers suit will stop fire the same as a 1500 dollar custom embroidered suit. I have seen guys that have t shirts and fan cards, before they ever had a racecar. Spend your money wisely, there is never enough for what you need, don't spend it on wants.
                  excellent post!!
                  I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.

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                  • let-r-eat
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 2319

                    #24
                    Excellent post Heavy Duty!

                    I like to watch drivers come up through the ranks. The very best drivers were NEVER hard on equipment from the first day they started racing. They never try to put the car where it should never go. I'm not saying rubbin isn't racing but the best *Bloomquist/Owens/ONeal/Gilpin/Hawkins/Strickler/etc etc never tore up race cars trying to figure out how to get them to go around the circle.

                    I very rarely see anyone with a pile of junk in victory lane either. Racing well takes a ton of effort, time, and money and there will never be a replacement for talent.
                    BUCKLE UP NOW, YA HEAR?

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                    • Bob Hubbard
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 1048

                      #25
                      More questions

                      ok ....ive been listening to my buddy say he can make the car turn with the throttle ..... He keeps saying he needs motor incase the car is too tight .... It just doesnt sound right to me .... Is he right ?
                      Retired - Snowbird ... Living the Dream

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                      • JustAddDirt
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 1893

                        #26
                        motor

                        Originally posted by Bob Hubbard View Post
                        ok ....ive been listening to my buddy say he can make the car turn with the throttle ..... He keeps saying he needs motor incase the car is too tight .... It just doesnt sound right to me .... Is he right ?
                        you can do that but it will likely be slower than a car that was set up correctly.
                        In the heavy track conditions you will be ok, but in slick conditions you will suffer.
                        I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.

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                        • Matt49
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 3123

                          #27
                          JustAddDirt is 100% right. If you're using the gas to turn the car in slick conditions at mid-corner, you have killed any chance of having forward bite coming off the corners. As soon as you light the tires up, you're out to lunch.

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                          • Lizardracing
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 839

                            #28
                            My biggest improvement was two things, getting good parts on the car that last a race or two and not cobbled up stuff I thought would work and the second was to stop listening to every Tom, (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) and Harry with a race car. Interestingly, I don't even know a Tom (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) or Harry but anyway, I found one guy...who understood me and my program and holy cow it made me faster lol. I still don't listen to everything he says and I do what my car want's but I can trust by his win record that the advice works for him.

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                            • Bob Hubbard
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 1048

                              #29
                              Thanks for all the insight .... We only ran 3/4 of the season last year with little track time .... He did run good at a couple tracks .... At the end of the year he found a bent rf shock ... We think that was alot of it ..... This year we start off with a new chassis ( spring behind ) & the help of the chassis builder .... We hope to have a big learning curve this season ....
                              Retired - Snowbird ... Living the Dream

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                              • racer69
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 249

                                #30
                                One thing that will help is getting in a good race with the best guys. With help from HEAVY DUTY and others I was getting better. Making the car right. One night I made the feature with some of the best. I didnt try to race them. I had no chance. But with so many good drivers in one race there was very little cautions. Lots of fast hard racing. I learned more in that single race than in the whole first season.

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