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  • kazual
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 1168

    #16
    Rising fuel costs will likely have a negative effect on racing. And if you think demand doesn’t matter watch what happens to travel and vacation costs throughout the rest of 2021. Air fares, hotels, theme parks, restaurants, etc. will rise dramatically as demand increases.
    I hate time trials.

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    • over4T
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2015
      • 1110

      #17
      Come to the west coast if you want to stroke out about fuel prices. Regular gas at the cheaper stations like the Arcos is in the $3.80 range while the Chevrons are in the $4.15 range for the same.

      Did manage to fill the hauler (big block 8 mpg Chevy) at the Indian casino station where we stayed near Hanford, CA Saturday night for $3.11 and also refueled the race car and jugs with 110 for $8.99 per gallon.

      So quit whining pu$$ies.

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      • Barbecueboy
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 18116

        #18
        Where did the supply all go that the US was flush with less than 6 months ago?
        Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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        • Barbecueboy
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 18116

          #19
          Originally posted by over4T View Post
          Come to the west coast if you want to stroke out about fuel prices. Regular gas at the cheaper stations like the Arcos is in the $3.80 range while the Chevrons are in the $4.15 range for the same.

          Did manage to fill the hauler (big block 8 mpg Chevy) at the Indian casino station where we stayed near Hanford, CA Saturday night for $3.11 and also refueled the race car and jugs with 110 for $8.99 per gallon.

          So quit whining pu$$ies.
          You lost me at " come to the west coast".......I've spent enough time there to know I really don't need to go back.

          Lake Tahoe , Napa, Oregon coastline being the only three possible exceptions.
          Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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          • CIRF
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 8122

            #20
            Originally posted by ss12 View Post
            Its not about supply and demand? Is there any US oil companies benefiting from the higher prices?

            https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ut-in-february
            How's that Tesla running these days, ss? Are ya' doin' any badass burnouts with it these days?

            Originally posted by over4T View Post
            Come to the west coast if you want to stroke out about fuel prices. Regular gas at the cheaper stations like the Arcos is in the $3.80 range while the Chevrons are in the $4.15 range for the same.

            Did manage to fill the hauler (big block 8 mpg Chevy) at the Indian casino station where we stayed near Hanford, CA Saturday night for $3.11 and also refueled the race car and jugs with 110 for $8.99 per gallon.

            So quit whining pu$$ies.
            over, if you get Gavin recalled and defeated it'll go back down fast! LOLOL!!

            I may be a pu$$y but I'm gonna' whine anyway! A large portion of my yearly business input costs are fuel and energy. These inputs are NOT elective, they are a large segment of what is mandatory for my business to continue to operate. EVERY dollar increase in fuel and energy is one dollar less that I will realize as a profit for the year and believe me, the profit margins are relatively thin on a good year. The only way I'll quit whining like a poisoned pup is if I get called out by a restauranteur or a bar owner who has been forcibly closed down for over a year! Those folks are the people who have a huge and legitimate bitch!

            Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
            You lost me at " come to the west coast".......I've spent enough time there to know I really don't need to go back.

            Lake Tahoe , Napa, Oregon coastline being the only three possible exceptions.
            Hey BBQ, you're a man after my own heart! I've been to Reno/Tahoe several times and I have a sister near the southern coast of Oregon so I'm with ya' 100% on those two destinations. I've spent a fair amount of time in the Temecula wine country but never Napa.

            We're planning a trip to Reno/Lake Tahoe in August for the Hot August Nights car show and we plan on spending some time on the Lake while we're there, as well. Looking forward to it big time!!

            SoCal is beautiful, too, but you have to stay well away from LA, which is nearly as big of a $hithole as chitcago, and that's sayin' something!! We'll venture into San Diego and the Ventura/Oxnard area but that's as close as we ever want to get to LA.
            Last edited by CIRF; 03-16-2021, 02:30 PM.

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            • Buford.Justice
              Senior Member
              • May 2020
              • 4981

              #21
              Originally posted by fastford View Post
              the majority of those so called 80 million had no Idea what they were voting for , and like some on here , did not care , there hatred for trump made them so blind to reality that they did not care who run against trump , it was defeat him at all cost , well , here is your cost and 3 dollar plus gas and the huge crises at the border is just the beginning , but to most of them , they beat the orange man and thats all that matters , WAKE UP AMERICA ........
              To tell the Truth, 20 million of those votes were fake or illegal.

              How many people actually voted for Biden? More like 60 million, sadly he only needed a "D" to get those votes. That's all that mattered.
              If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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              • dirtMAN007
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 5691

                #22
                Originally posted by Buford.Justice View Post
                To tell the Truth, 20 million of those votes were fake or illegal.

                How many people actually voted for Biden? More like 60 million, sadly he only needed a "D" to get those votes. That's all that mattered.
                not even that ! the initials just couldn't be DJT !

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                • ss12
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 3864

                  #23
                  Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                  How's that Tesla running these days, ss? Are ya' doin' any badass burnouts with it these days?

                  over, if you get Gavin recalled and defeated it'll go back down fast! LOLOL!!

                  I may be a pu$$y but I'm gonna' whine anyway! A large portion of my yearly business input costs are fuel and energy. These inputs are NOT elective, they are a large segment of what is mandatory for my business to continue to operate. EVERY dollar increase in fuel and energy is one dollar less that I will realize as a profit for the year and believe me, the profit margins are relatively thin on a good year. The only way I'll quit whining like a poisoned pup is if I get called out by a restauranteur or a bar owner who has been forcibly closed down for over a year! Those folks are the people who have a huge and legitimate bitch!

                  Hey BBQ, you're a man after my own heart! I've been to Reno/Tahoe several times and I have a sister near the southern coast of Oregon so I'm with ya' 100% on those two destinations. I've spent a fair amount of time in the Temecula wine country but never Napa.

                  We're planning a trip to Reno/Lake Tahoe in August for the Hot August Nights car show and we plan on spending some time on the Lake while we're there, as well. Looking forward to it big time!!

                  SoCal is beautiful, too, but you have to stay well away from LA, which is nearly as big of a $hithole as chitcago, and that's sayin' something!! We'll venture into San Diego and the Ventura/Oxnard area but that's as close as we ever want to get to LA.
                  The Tesla is running great. The torque this car has is unbelievable. To recharge it cost $6.00 which will go 200 miles. Pretty cheap since gas is so high and going higher.
                  Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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                  • over4T
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 1110

                    #24
                    CIRF & BBQ, I'd bet that our Guv will, at the least, be on a recall ballot in a few months and, hopefully, out on his incompetent a$$ shortly later. Tough thing is who to put up against him. Another incompetent? The only other Governor in CA to be recalled was Dem Gray Davis. In his place we got a Republican Austrian body builder/movie star who rode around in a fleet of Humvees, smoked stogies in a tent on the Capitol's front lawn and knocked up his kids' nanny. Wasn't exactly a trade up.

                    Some large reasons for our high gas prices include the highest gas taxes in the country, our miniscule amount of refineries (not in my backyard) and our "special" fuels to cut the smog (that worked).

                    You've been out here enough to know how beautiful much of the west is and to be able to overlook the cruddy area, which every state has. I've been in some 40 of the states and found terrific stuff and god-awful stuff in every single one, in varying degrees of course. I've loved many of the years I spent in SoCal and even more so the past 36 years in the Sierra Nevada mountain foothills. Friendly small communities, good neighbors, a small ranch populated by the horses, goats and sheep we've rescued from some unpleasant former circumstances and are now healthy and happy.

                    Lake Tahoe, without question one of the prettiest spots in the country, is an hour up the mountain, the Napa vineyards about an hour and a half away, the Gold Country where the '49ers discovered gold surrounds us and is an interesting part of American history, the rugged north coast of California. Got a lot of race tracks where we can indulge our nutty hobby with people we mostly like. Sure, it's expensive out here but that's what you get when nearly 40 million people choose to live here. Personally, I'd like to see 'bout 38,000,000 of them leave and go to your states. Maybe your Chambers of Commerce could help. I'd be grateful.

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                    • Barbecueboy
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 18116

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ss12 View Post
                      The Tesla is running great. The torque this car has is unbelievable. To recharge it cost $6.00 which will go 200 miles. Pretty cheap since gas is so high and going higher.
                      My brother and his wife each have 1, they are very cool and they go from zero to real quick in a hurry.....I'm not sure of the models hers is white suv ish with gull wings and his is more of a grey sedan looking car.

                      As fuel rises so will the cost to plug the tesla in and recharge it, but I'm sure you know that already.....
                      Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                      • Barbecueboy
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 18116

                        #26
                        Originally posted by over4T View Post
                        CIRF & BBQ, I'd bet that our Guv will, at the least, be on a recall ballot in a few months and, hopefully, out on his incompetent a$$ shortly later. Tough thing is who to put up against him. Another incompetent? The only other Governor in CA to be recalled was Dem Gray Davis. In his place we got a Republican Austrian body builder/movie star who rode around in a fleet of Humvees, smoked stogies in a tent on the Capitol's front lawn and knocked up his kids' nanny. Wasn't exactly a trade up.

                        Some large reasons for our high gas prices include the highest gas taxes in the country, our miniscule amount of refineries (not in my backyard) and our "special" fuels to cut the smog (that worked).

                        You've been out here enough to know how beautiful much of the west is and to be able to overlook the cruddy area, which every state has. I've been in some 40 of the states and found terrific stuff and god-awful stuff in every single one, in varying degrees of course. I've loved many of the years I spent in SoCal and even more so the past 36 years in the Sierra Nevada mountain foothills. Friendly small communities, good neighbors, a small ranch populated by the horses, goats and sheep we've rescued from some unpleasant former circumstances and are now healthy and happy.

                        Lake Tahoe, without question one of the prettiest spots in the country, is an hour up the mountain, the Napa vineyards about an hour and a half away, the Gold Country where the '49ers discovered gold surrounds us and is an interesting part of American history, the rugged north coast of California. Got a lot of race tracks where we can indulge our nutty hobby with people we mostly like. Sure, it's expensive out here but that's what you get when nearly 40 million people choose to live here. Personally, I'd like to see 'bout 38,000,000 of them leave and go to your states. Maybe your Chambers of Commerce could help. I'd be grateful.
                        Man, where you are sounds exactly like heaven.....it's nice to know that someone that lives there thinks so too, that's very cool.

                        I knew I wasn't wrong thinking as we were driving through vacationing or business tripping that the area would be just as you described to live in....I've lived along the coast most of my life and seen my fair share of coastal beauty and all that comes with it so SoCal as cool as it is does nothing for me in the state.....thanks for sharing over4t, got me nudged to start figuring out when we will get back out, it's been about 10 years.
                        Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                        • lurker
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2017
                          • 3343

                          #27
                          Originally posted by ss12 View Post
                          The Tesla is running great. The torque this car has is unbelievable. To recharge it cost $6.00 which will go 200 miles. Pretty cheap since gas is so high and going higher.
                          I while back I read in one of the Auto magazines that a VW Jetta Diesel was the more well rounded vehicle “environmentally“, top to bottom --- than any of its EV competitors.

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                          • ZERO25
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2018
                            • 5240

                            #28
                            I may be a pu$$y but I'm gonna' whine anyway! A large portion of my yearly business input costs are fuel and energy. These inputs are NOT elective, they are a large segment of what is mandatory for my business to continue to operate. EVERY dollar increase in fuel and energy is one dollar less that I will realize as a profit for the year and believe me, the profit margins are relatively thin on a good year. The only way I'll quit whining like a poisoned pup is if I get called out by a restauranteur or a bar owner who has been forcibly closed down for over a year! Those folks are the people who have a huge and legitimate bitch!


                            Agree with ya cirf! Fuel is one of my biggest cogs as well!

                            You cant teach some of these clowns how to read a p&l statement!Most work by the hour and dont have a clue, that its people like us that make this great capitalist country.....GREAT!

                            Oh well.......guess whos gonna pay for these for these fuel costs.......THEY ARE!!!

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                            • CIRF
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 8122

                              #29
                              Originally posted by ss12 View Post
                              The Tesla is running great. The torque this car has is unbelievable. To recharge it cost $6.00 which will go 200 miles. Pretty cheap since gas is so high and going higher.
                              Which model do you have? We checked into one a year ago and the cheapest model we could get into with the long range capability was over $60 grand with buyer incentives and it wasn't nearly large enough for anything but a work car. Anything large enough to be practical was just shy of $100 grand. We opted for a turbo charged Lexus SUV that will flat get it done!! I can buy a lot of $4.50 91 octane gas for the difference and I don't have to sweat finding charging stations. We live in a very rural area and plug-in's aren't all that plentiful.

                              Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
                              I may be a pu$$y but I'm gonna' whine anyway! A large portion of my yearly business input costs are fuel and energy. These inputs are NOT elective, they are a large segment of what is mandatory for my business to continue to operate. EVERY dollar increase in fuel and energy is one dollar less that I will realize as a profit for the year and believe me, the profit margins are relatively thin on a good year. The only way I'll quit whining like a poisoned pup is if I get called out by a restauranteur or a bar owner who has been forcibly closed down for over a year! Those folks are the people who have a huge and legitimate bitch!


                              Agree with ya cirf! Fuel is one of my biggest cogs as well!

                              You cant teach some of these clowns how to read a p&l statement!Most work by the hour and dont have a clue, that its people like us that make this great capitalist country.....GREAT!

                              Oh well.......guess whos gonna pay for these for these fuel costs.......THEY ARE!!!
                              You're dead on, ZERO! Being self employed has it's benefits but the governmental red tape is beyond excessive.

                              A few down side facets of being self employed as opposed to punching a time clock is we pay 100% of our social security/self employment tax. We pay dearly for health insurance. We don't pay into workman's comp. so subsequently we can't collect it if we're unexpectedly outa' work.

                              We also pay our taxes in either 4 installments of estimated amounts or we pay it in one lump sum. I've said for a very long time that if the time clock punchers didn't have taxes taken out of every paycheck and wrote a single check for their taxes there would be a tax revolt of Biblical proportions. It certainly puts into perspective just how much it costs to be an honest, middle class person in this country and the states with an income tax!

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                              • ss12
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 3864

                                #30
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                                while back I read in one of the Auto magazines that a VW Jetta Diesel was the more well rounded vehicle “environmentally“, top to bottom --- than any of its EV competitors.

                                Is that why VW is building an electric vehicle? VW goal is to out sell Tesla by 2025.
                                Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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