Charlie Kirk

[lurker]

For example, many progressives will still "vote blue no matter who", however their beliefs are much further left than that of the actual party. It's also usually these ones who make the most noise. Their opinions are irrelevant. The DNC doesn't pander to these people. The same obviously goes for the far-right.

If I follow what you are saying, that is about to change, and did change on Sept 10.

[lurker]

The issue is that the Republicans mentioned above are IN government. It just isn't far right-extremists that are using Kirk's death to immediately score points by blaming Dems and trying to incite more violence, it's the Republicans IN government. That's the issue.

Can you please cite a video that I can watch or an article I can read to back up your claim

[lurker]

I think what ss12 posted was very poor taste and I'm not a fan. He as an individual does not solely represent the left.

I disagree. He represents a very LARGE portion of the Left’s base.

(That is said in opinion form, from/based on, the last 35 years of my personal lifetime. Sometimes I think it's hard for you to wrap your head around stuff like this <my comment> because of your age.)

[lurker]

Ty, we are now entering a different era on the Political landscape. If you think your lifetime of 30 plus years (I’m guessing you are 35’ish) has been bad, come back and talk with me in 20 years.

[lurker]

Lurker, However after now discovering the detail that his roommate was transgender/transitioning I don't think I'll go too far down the Fuentes rabbit hole. Fuentes and his followers are rabidly anti-LGBTQ...(whatever else has been added). So it would be an odd fit, and a reach.

TRANS PARTNERS ARE COMMON IN GROYPER SUBCULTURES/ALT RIGHT - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ7RWsbebp0


I still feel that Robinson was a <radicalized> follower, or at one time a follower, of Fuentes.

[Tyy7777]

If I follow what you are saying, that is about to change, and did change on Sept 10.

What do you mean by this?

[Tyy7777]

Can you please cite a video that I can watch or an article I can read to back up your claim

Well you can start with the comments made by Trump and Vance this week. You can't deny the Republicans haven't used Kirk's death to score points and consequently call to incite violence.

If you deny that fact then you are just delusional and I hate to be so sure and binary but that's just how it is.

[Tyy7777]

I disagree. He represents a very LARGE portion of the Left’s base.

(That is said in opinion form, from/based on, the last 35 years of my personal lifetime. Sometimes I think it's hard for you to wrap your head around stuff like this <my comment> because of your age.)

I mean if you base your opinion of what the left IS on what you see on the internet and what Fox News tells you then yeh, sure. Polarizing views always make it to the forefront.

[Tyy7777]

Ty, we are now entering a different era on the Political landscape. If you think your lifetime of 30 plus years (I’m guessing you are 35’ish) has been bad, come back and talk with me in 20 years.

Well I'm halfway there then! 45.

[Tyy7777]

TRANS PARTNERS ARE COMMON IN GROYPER SUBCULTURES/ALT RIGHT - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ7RWsbebp0


I still feel that Robinson was a <radicalized> follower, or at one time a follower, of Fuentes.

But Trump and Vance have already blamed the radical left. It doesn't matter. They did so before Kirk was put in the coffin.

[lurker]

What do you mean by this?

I don’t think “their” opinions are irrelevant —-- was my point.

[Tyy7777]

I don’t think “their” opinions are irrelevant —-- was my point.

What leads you to that idea?

It's like claiming someone like Fuentes has a grapple on the Republican party. Democrats don't pander to progressives. That doesn't mean they don't introduce some progressive ideas but the amount is quite minimal. There's a reason Bernie wasn't the candidate in '16.

[lurker]

Nothing I can really pinpoint, TY, just my gut speaking —--- I’d think at this point everyone's opinion is going to be more relevant. But maybe not, as you stated. Maybe the far Left and Right opinions are going to be even more irrelevant? Maybe?

[Tyy7777]

Nothing I can really pinpoint, TY, just my gut speaking —--- I’d think at this point everyone's opinion is going to be more relevant. But maybe not, as you stated. Maybe the far Left and Right opinions are going to be even more irrelevant? Maybe?

So your gut feeling is more important than history?

I think you're very close but far off at the same time.

[lurker]

So your gut feeling is more important than history?

Not that we are on uncharted waters here —-- but we haven't had history like this in a long darn time.