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  • Bubstr
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 3734

    #16
    Originally posted by buster83 View Post
    it is all about the black gold,and the US. showing it`s power but US is losing it`s power in the black gold country latest example is
    Iraq.
    Black gold is just a side note. Make no mistake, this is about the military industrial complex. War America is the largest employer in this country. Over half of federal employees and the single largest private employer, who's sole consumer is you the tax payer. It is responsible for the biggest chunk of our national debt, over half. Second to only the interest charged on that debt.

    Make no mistake about it. This is a powerful force politically as well as militarily. Point, What was the first thing excused from our recent sequester? Military spending. It seems spending more than twice the amount as any other country spends, just isn't enough. Also, make no mistake, all these wars and conflicts are about being on guard from fictitious invaders and weapon sales that is connected.

    If Black gold was the reason for Iraq, why didn't an American Oil company get the contracts for that country? Are we fighting wars for international conglomerates now?

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    • t.nie
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 1146

      #17
      Originally posted by kidrock View Post
      Oh yeah dirtclassic you are so right the elitist are at it again make no mistake about it and they could care which party is in power. They don't pick sides just the people that run them.
      Possibly the most insightful post I have ever read on 4m.net.

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      • t.nie
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2008
        • 1146

        #18
        Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
        We are not letting this stop at HealthCare. I truly beleive the only REAL reasons that you hate Bush Chaney is that they are in the Republican Party, that's how people are being brainwashed these days, and you sure got a triple rinse!!
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        Rep. Tim Scott (R-Ga.) said on July 5 that if President Obama should invoke a clause in the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution in order to bypass Congress and borrow beyond the debt limit, he would consider that an act worthy of impeachment. "This President is looking to usurp Congressional oversight to find a way to get it done without us. My position is that is an impeachable act from my perspective," Scott said at a Tea Party-related meeting. Rep. Pete Olson (R-Tex.) later told an interviewer that Scott's "is not a lonely voice," and that others are also discussing impeachment.

        What Obama and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner are in fact doing, is using the threat of default, or of preventing default by using Clause 4 of the 14th Amendment, in order to protect London's and Wall Street's illegitimate debt. Obama and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner have done everything in their power to oppose the Constitutional method of dealing with the debt—the restoration of Glass-Steagall—and are instead using the threat of default to ram through killer austerity, in violation of the Constitution's commitment to the general welfare.

        This is but the latest in a long series of impeachable offenses committed by Obama:
        •Most recent is his flagrant violation of the U.S. Constitution and the War Powers Resolution by deploying U.S. armed forces and conducting war against Libya without Congressional authorization or a declaration of war. Indeed, Obama has insisted that a United Nations resolution authorizing "humanitarian intervention" is a higher authority than the United States Constitution.
        •Already in April 2009, Obama was engaging in actions to destroy the sovereignty of the United States, when, at the London G20 meeting, he agreed to actions, including the expansion of "Special Drawing Rights," which gave the International Monetary Fund increased power over the economy of the United States and other sovereign nations.
        •Obama's shutdown and destruction of the NASA manned space flight program, on behalf of the British, was what triggered Lyndon LaRouche's first formal call for the impeachment of Obama, in February 2010.
        •Obama's health-care plan, modeled on Hitler's T-4 policy, in its scheme to deny medical care and treatment to certain categories of people, constitutes a crime against humanity under the Nuremberg Principles to which the United States is bound by law and treaty.
        •Obama's violation of the separation of powers, by means of unilateral executive actions, in violation of U.S. law including treaty law, has exceeded even that of George W. Bush and Cheney in many respects.
        •He has continued the use of signing statements, and has made dozens of appointments of special "czars" and recess appointments, to circumvent Congressional oversight and the Senate confirmation process.
        •He has expanded domestic surveillance and wiretapping, has continued the use of abusive detentions and interrogations of prisoners taken in the "war on terror," and he has expanded the use of targeted assassinations, including claiming the right to kill American citizens abroad without any due process.
        •He has effectively legalized torture and prisoner abuse in violation of U.S. law and treaty obligations, by directing his Justice Department to cover up hundreds of cases of abuse and torture and even deaths, from the Bush-Cheney years.
        Wow, Geithner hasn't been Treasury Secretary since when, March? February?

        Still waiting on your "evidence" to back up your comparison of Obama to all those other guys who slaughtered thousands of their own people. Care to show me a body or two, maybe some proof Obama qualifies among the elites of despotic dictators, instead of just a politician who passed a law you disagree with (which was voted on by Congress and upheld by a severely biased Supreme Court too, I might add....).

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        • Clayton_Wetter
          Banned
          • May 2007
          • 16671

          #19
          Originally posted by t.nie View Post
          Wow, Geithner hasn't been Treasury Secretary since when, March? February?

          Still waiting on your "evidence" to back up your comparison of Obama to all those other guys who slaughtered thousands of their own people. Care to show me a body or two, maybe some proof Obama qualifies among the elites of despotic dictators, instead of just a politician who passed a law you disagree with (which was voted on by Congress and upheld by a severely biased Supreme Court too, I might add....).
          We're getting there. If allowed to continue his plans you will see when the dust settles. In other words the goose isn't fully cooked yet.

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          • t.nie
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 1146

            #20
            Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
            We're getting there. If allowed to continue his plans you will see when the dust settles. In other words the goose isn't fully cooked yet.
            Ok. Finally an admission that everything you want people to think about this president is all in your own mind. We have to wait and see, "the goose isn't fully cooked yet."

            Have you ever stopped and figured out that if the results aren't in yet, then the outcome could actually be very good, too? That we don't just have to look for the worst possible explanation and outcome and just presume that is what is going to happen?

            Quite frankly, Terry, just admitting that the results aren't in yet and we have to wait and see how things turn out is about the most open minded, thoughtful and reasonable thing you have ever said on here. It shows that despite all your personal bias and hatred of the man, you are willing to concede that as of today, his agenda has not turned out to be slaughtering the nation's people, and there is a possibility things might just work out different than you are predicting.

            I look forward to a few years from now when that goose is fully cooked. Then you can start eating your crow. lol

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            • Bubstr
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 3734

              #21
              Will he have to eat that raw? We could cook his Crow, but we won't pick it. The biggest problem with partisan politics is partisan politics. If we got rid of the two party system, government might start working again. The lesser of two evils, is still evil.

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              • Clayton_Wetter
                Banned
                • May 2007
                • 16671

                #22
                Originally posted by t.nie View Post
                Ok. Finally an admission that everything you want people to think about this president is all in your own mind. We have to wait and see, "the goose isn't fully cooked yet."

                Have you ever stopped and figured out that if the results aren't in yet, then the outcome could actually be very good, too? That we don't just have to look for the worst possible explanation and outcome and just presume that is what is going to happen?

                Quite frankly, Terry, just admitting that the results aren't in yet and we have to wait and see how things turn out is about the most open minded, thoughtful and reasonable thing you have ever said on here. It shows that despite all your personal bias and hatred of the man, you are willing to concede that as of today, his agenda has not turned out to be slaughtering the nation's people, and there is a possibility things might just work out different than you are predicting.

                I look forward to a few years from now when that goose is fully cooked. Then you can start eating your crow. lol
                I'm not admitting anything, other than the facts are there everyday for you to see. If you choose not to see a nation in crisis and going into totalitarian government control it is by your own choice. What makes your self imposed ignorance even more insulting is that you direct the blame on anyone excpect the very people the ARE to blame.

                The truth unfolds everyday what is going on but by all means sit in your house and fiddle in the flames!

                And if anyone eats crow, you will be the one and I would like to personally serve to you!

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                • buster83
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 1878

                  #23
                  A senior Russian lawmaker said Sunday that Obama was a George W. “clone”.

                  “Obama is restlessly heading towards war in Syria like Bush was heading towards war in Iraq. Like in Iraq, this war would be illegitimate and Obama will become Bush’s clone,” Alexei Pushkov, the head of the Russian lower house’s international committee.

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                  • Clayton_Wetter
                    Banned
                    • May 2007
                    • 16671

                    #24
                    Here is a must read article!

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                    • Clayton_Wetter
                      Banned
                      • May 2007
                      • 16671

                      #25

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                      • Bubstr
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 3734

                        #26
                        Will Congress vote for a war and turn their back on the aged and poor? Can we afford to be the world cop and who elected us Sheriff? If the UN made Nerve gas illegal, shouldn't the UN be in charge of policing it? With out the UN backing, bombing Syria would be an act of aggression.

                        The UN made the selling of arms internationally illegal. You have to know some one from the United states will sell those arms, if not the government it's self. What are we going to do, when China bombs our arms makers?

                        I think we should have to pay off the last war before we start another. We are still paying on WW2. We will never repay the Social security principle and interest for Viet Nam, Niagara, Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq. Of course, this is what we get, when Congress spends other peoples money and hides it with a money shuffle. The red line is, How much money is the US government going to spend, that they don't have.
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                        • biker6403
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 228

                          #27
                          This COUNTRY needs to focus within our own borders!..I know it is a pipe dream.
                          We are Cardinal Nation! Go Cards! Albert who?????

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                          • ss12
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 3864

                            #28
                            Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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                            • balljoint
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 1774

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
                              Black gold is just a side note. Make no mistake, this is about the military industrial complex. War America is the largest employer in this country. Over half of federal employees and the single largest private employer, who's sole consumer is you the tax payer. It is responsible for the biggest chunk of our national debt, over half. Second to only the interest charged on that debt.

                              Make no mistake about it. This is a powerful force politically as well as militarily. Point, What was the first thing excused from our recent sequester? Military spending. It seems spending more than twice the amount as any other country spends, just isn't enough. Also, make no mistake, all these wars and conflicts are about being on guard from fictitious invaders and weapon sales that is connected.

                              If Black gold was the reason for Iraq, why didn't an American Oil company get the contracts for that country? Are we fighting wars for international conglomerates now?
                              The reason for the invasion was Sadam moved away from using the USD for oil trading. 3 weeks after the start of the IRAQ war in 2003, USD was back in. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

                              The petrodollar.

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                              • balljoint
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 1774

                                #30
                                This war is pushed by FOX and the Israelis. That is why it seems republican backed and why wars have seemed republican backed since Bush Sr. Israelis back pubs. aka Bush.

                                He was an Israeli puppet. FOX is also Israeli puppet. duh. cmon guys.

                                Israel wants the US at war.

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