World war 3 set up by the elites

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back to the original intentions of this thread....

check out "7 countries in 5 years" starring General Wesley Clark.

The US military is merely a tool to achieve those means.

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Republicans bummed me out during this last presidential election......and are still doing so

Like pulling off a mask. They are crooks and have been for a long time....

they are no better than the party you despise....

On this we can agree. MOST of the Republican congressmen might as well be liberal Democrats with an (R) behind their name. John McCain is the biggest example I can think of. The guy is an idiot.

There are only a few decent TRUE CONSERVATIVE Republicans in Congress that are willing to stand up for the conservative values they were voted in to defend. Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Mike Lee come to mind immediately. If we had more men like these, and if men like these could become the nominees for President (instead of the rinos the party nominates) the train wreck of a course this country is on could be reversed IMO.

[t.nie]

On this we can agree. MOST of the Republican congressmen might as well be liberal Democrats with an (R) behind their name. John McCain is the biggest example I can think of. The guy is an idiot.

There are only a few decent TRUE CONSERVATIVE Republicans in Congress that are willing to stand up for the conservative values they were voted in to defend. Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Mike Lee come to mind immediately. If we had more men like these, and if men like these could become the nominees for President (instead of the rinos the party nominates) the train wreck of a course this country is on could be reversed IMO.

And let's nor forget, as that wascawwy Wino John McCain said, the debate took place, congress voted Obamacare into law, it went to the Supreme Court and it was upheld. That's how our system of government works. And we vote for whom we think is the best person to represent our interests, which in some jurisdictions is the Tea Party ultraconservatives, but for the majority it's middle of the road people willing to compromise and give and take.

What you seem to want is more of the "My way or the Highway" knuckle draggers. Good luck, because this is still a nation that votes and majorities rule. And no, the rest of us don't want any more knuckle dragging dictators who want to bully everyone else into doing it their way.

You "True Conservatives" are a dying breed, predominantly old white rich guys who hate the fact that they aren't in charge any more and will pull any underhanded stunt to try and bully other people into submitting to you. Aint happening. That whole movement will die off soon enough. The numbers are dwindling by the day.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Republicans bummed me out during this last presidential election......and are still doing so

Like pulling off a mask. They are crooks and have been for a long time....

they are no better than the party you despise....

I'll still take a crook over a Communist crook any day. And at least there are some true conservatives left in the Rep party and a sign of hope of gaining more of them.

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I agree. Mccain is a huge israel supporter. Maybe the biggest. Right there with lindsey graham. Those are the ones we need out.

Domestically pubs are way better than dems...but their foreign policy blows. Dems seem to bt the opposite.

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And let's nor forget, as that wascawwy Wino John McCain said, the debate took place, congress voted Obamacare into law, it went to the Supreme Court and it was upheld.

It was "upheld" as a TAX. Do you remember Obama and his cronies swearing that this was NOT A TAX? Just another lie in the long list of Obama flat out, bold faced LIES that the likes of you give him a pass on.

[t.nie]

It was "upheld" as a TAX. Do you remember Obama and his cronies swearing that this was NOT A TAX? Just another lie in the long list of Obama flat out, bold faced LIES that the likes of you give him a pass on.

Chief Justice Roberts (one of the GOPs minions on the Supreme Court) upheld the law using the logic that Congress can levy taxes. I guess if you call a traffic ticket a "tax" for going too fast, or a parking ticket a "tax" for parking in a no parking zone, then the PENALTY for not buying health insurance is a "tax".

That's how the whole farce that Obamacare is a "tax" came about. It's not a tax, but Roberts figured out a way to use "the power of Congress to levy taxes" to uphold part of the law. It wasn't how the Obama administration presented it, and the President and his administration didn't write the Supreme Court opinion, so really, if you have a problem with it being called a tax, or you think its a tax, go vent your opinion to the Roberts who came up with that logic.

And it really doesn't matter, the only thing that mattered was the Congress voted to pass it, Obama signed it, the Supreme Court upheld it and now it's the law. And who gives a rats backside what that GOP lackey on the Supreme Court called it.

Bottom line, find me somewhere that Obama or the administration bold faced lied about it not being a "tax." You can't. Even after Roberts came out with that crap, the administration clearly argued that it was not a tax as you have a choice to avoid the penalty, which is purchasing health insurance. Just like not parking in a no parking zone, or staying under the speed limit, or not driving drunk, or not driving without insurance; you have a choice to avoid being fined. Unlike taxes, which you have no option on.

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Chief Justice Roberts (one of the GOPs minions on the Supreme Court) upheld the law using the logic that Congress can levy taxes. I guess if you call a traffic ticket a "tax" for going too fast, or a parking ticket a "tax" for parking in a no parking zone, then the PENALTY for not buying health insurance is a "tax".

That's how the whole farce that Obamacare is a "tax" came about. It's not a tax, but Roberts figured out a way to use "the power of Congress to levy taxes" to uphold part of the law. It wasn't how the Obama administration presented it, and the President and his administration didn't write the Supreme Court opinion, so really, if you have a problem with it being called a tax, or you think its a tax, go vent your opinion to the Roberts who came up with that logic.

And it really doesn't matter, the only thing that mattered was the Congress voted to pass it, Obama signed it, the Supreme Court upheld it and now it's the law. And who gives a rats backside what that GOP lackey on the Supreme Court called it.

Bottom line, find me somewhere that Obama or the administration bold faced lied about it not being a "tax." You can't. Even after Roberts came out with that crap, the administration clearly argued that it was not a tax as you have a choice to avoid the penalty, which is purchasing health insurance. Just like not parking in a no parking zone, or staying under the speed limit, or not driving drunk, or not driving without insurance; you have a choice to avoid being fined. Unlike taxes, which you have no option on.

Are you alright TNIE? Unless you're a professional contortionist with that last paragraph, you could pull something if you're not careful.

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Chief Justice Roberts (one of the GOPs minions on the Supreme Court) upheld the law using the logic that Congress can levy taxes. I guess if you call a traffic ticket a "tax" for going too fast, or a parking ticket a "tax" for parking in a no parking zone, then the PENALTY for not buying health insurance is a "tax".

That's how the whole farce that Obamacare is a "tax" came about. It's not a tax, but Roberts figured out a way to use "the power of Congress to levy taxes" to uphold part of the law. It wasn't how the Obama administration presented it, and the President and his administration didn't write the Supreme Court opinion, so really, if you have a problem with it being called a tax, or you think its a tax, go vent your opinion to the Roberts who came up with that logic.

And it really doesn't matter, the only thing that mattered was the Congress voted to pass it, Obama signed it, the Supreme Court upheld it and now it's the law. And who gives a rats backside what that GOP lackey on the Supreme Court called it.

Bottom line, find me somewhere that Obama or the administration bold faced lied about it not being a "tax." You can't. Even after Roberts came out with that crap, the administration clearly argued that it was not a tax as you have a choice to avoid the penalty, which is purchasing health insurance. Just like not parking in a no parking zone, or staying under the speed limit, or not driving drunk, or not driving without insurance; you have a choice to avoid being fined. Unlike taxes, which you have no option on.

You're only right about one thing. Obamacare is the "law". It's a "law" that Obama (and his administration) himself has not upheld and has taken it upon himself to change at will. More actions the libs give him a free pass on.

Please note the 3:10 mark of the video. If you don't think there was deception and thuggery involved in getting Obamacare passed, you are ignorant beyond belief.

http://conservativevideos.com/2013/07/obama-breaks-law-and-delays-obamacare/

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Send Oneal over there. He can destroy things in a hurry.

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I agree. Mccain is a huge israel supporter. Maybe the biggest. Right there with lindsey graham. Those are the ones we need out.

Domestically pubs are way better than dems...but their foreign policy blows. Dems seem to bt the opposite.

I have no issue with supporting Israel. If/when Israel goes down, we are ALL done for.

[Clayton_Wetter]

That I totally believe also!

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I have no issue with supporting Israel. If/when Israel goes down, we are ALL done for.

I have a problem putting Israel's needs before our own.

And their spoiled brat attitude towards the US.

r-e-s-p-e-c-t

They are bad. Not good. Mossad is one of the largest terrorist groups.


Notice during the government shutdown no one is talking about cutting the billions we give Israel every year for weapons. Egypt too.


Only reason we would 'all go down' is if Israel used the nuclear weapons they are not supposed to have.

[Clayton_Wetter]

I have a problem putting Israel's needs before our own.

And their spoiled brat attitude towards the US.

r-e-s-p-e-c-t

They are bad. Not good. Mossad is one of the largest terrorist groups.


Notice during the government shutdown no one is talking about cutting the billions we give Israel every year for weapons. Egypt too.


Only reason we would 'all go down' is if Israel used the nuclear weapons they are not supposed to have.

Are you not familiar with the Bible and it's prophecies?

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Chief Justice Roberts (one of the GOPs minions on the Supreme Court) upheld the law using the logic that Congress can levy taxes. I guess if you call a traffic ticket a "tax" for going too fast, or a parking ticket a "tax" for parking in a no parking zone, then the PENALTY for not buying health insurance is a "tax".

That's how the whole farce that Obamacare is a "tax" came about. It's not a tax, but Roberts figured out a way to use "the power of Congress to levy taxes" to uphold part of the law. It wasn't how the Obama administration presented it, and the President and his administration didn't write the Supreme Court opinion, so really, if you have a problem with it being called a tax, or you think its a tax, go vent your opinion to the Roberts who came up with that logic.

And it really doesn't matter, the only thing that mattered was the Congress voted to pass it, Obama signed it, the Supreme Court upheld it and now it's the law. And who gives a rats backside what that GOP lackey on the Supreme Court called it.

Bottom line, find me somewhere that Obama or the administration bold faced lied about it not being a "tax." You can't. Even after Roberts came out with that crap, the administration clearly argued that it was not a tax as you have a choice to avoid the penalty, which is purchasing health insurance. Just like not parking in a no parking zone, or staying under the speed limit, or not driving drunk, or not driving without insurance; you have a choice to avoid being fined. Unlike taxes, which you have no option on.

The law is unconstitutional! Name me ONE thing (besides health insurance now) that the government can FORCE you to buy, for no other reason than being a citizen.

You can't name one thing. Why? Because it's unconstitutional. Familiarize yourself with the commerce clause. The government CANNOT make you buy something. Or at least it couldn't until ol "ignore the law and the Constitution" Obama came along.