How low can you go

[Bubstr]

Now Paul Ryan wants to cut Military retirements.

http://militaryadvantage.military.com/2013/12/ryan-murray-budget-deal-could-hurt-retirees/

When these guys signed up, they signed a contract to defend this country and inturn get pay and benefits. I guess this contract doesn't mean much to the scum bag tea bagger.

[LITE-INN]

http://paulryan.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=364581#.UrDww1SA1Mw

[15D]

Now Paul Ryan wants to cut Military retirements.

http://militaryadvantage.military.com/2013/12/ryan-murray-budget-deal-could-hurt-retirees/

When these guys signed up, they signed a contract to defend this country and inturn get pay and benefits. I guess this contract doesn't mean much to the scum bag tea bagger.

A couple of things; Ryan wasn't the only one negotiating, Patty Murray was there for the Dems and if the Dems were actually against this they could of brought it in front of the American People to gain political pressure to reverse this. Since when have the Dems been for anything other than cutting the Pentagon's budget? The '60's under JFK probably. Finally, and the most painful for all of us, I'm afraid this is just a harbinger of things to come. The retired military are just the low hanging fruit who were the easiest to short. Everybody else is going to take their turn who feed at the Federal Trough. Medicare, Medicaid, SS, you name it, it's coming.

[kidrock]

They all should be a shamed of their selves for letting this happen.

[Bubstr]

A couple of things; Ryan wasn't the only one negotiating, Patty Murray was there for the Dems and if the Dems were actually against this they could of brought it in front of the American People to gain political pressure to reverse this. Since when have the Dems been for anything other than cutting the Pentagon's budget? The '60's under JFK probably. Finally, and the most painful for all of us, I'm afraid this is just a harbinger of things to come. The retired military are just the low hanging fruit who were the easiest to short. Everybody else is going to take their turn who feed at the Federal Trough. Medicare, Medicaid, SS, you name it, it's coming.

Gee let me think. Wasn't it Paul Ryan that cried for more defense spending to the already rich defense contractors , when the sequester took effect. I guess they didn't hang low enough on the tree. Maybe it was they gave him money and the Veterans didn't.

The fact is you can bet he was the one that was for cutting. Every time he opens his weasel mouth it says cut. There is something wrong with a man that breaks a contract after the other side has been satisfied.

[15D]

Gee let me think. Wasn't it Paul Ryan that cried for more defense spending to the already rich defense contractors , when the sequester took effect. I guess they didn't hang low enough on the tree. Maybe it was they gave him money and the Veterans didn't.

The fact is you can bet he was the one that was for cutting. Every time he opens his weasel mouth it says cut. There is something wrong with a man that breaks a contract after the other side has been satisfied.

On the back of my enlistment papers, the contract I had with the DOD, that my pay and retirement were subject to the wills and wims of Congress. Not an exact quote obviously, but anybody who stayed in after '94 should have known that this was a possibility as it's been discussed since then. There was a proposal on the table in '92 I believe to keep the 20 year career people from receiving a pension until they reached the age of 56. It was one of the reasons I took an early retirement in '94 after serving for 12 years. I just didn't trust them not to cut my pay.

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[Clayton_Wetter]

Now Paul Ryan wants to cut Military retirements.

http://militaryadvantage.military.com/2013/12/ryan-murray-budget-deal-could-hurt-retirees/

When these guys signed up, they signed a contract to defend this country and inturn get pay and benefits. I guess this contract doesn't mean much to the scum bag tea bagger.

You sure point out what you think is a tea bagger with disdain? What about the truth behind the negotiating? How about an ugly retort about the Progressive Marxists in the Democrat Party instead of peeing on the wrong leg all the time?

[Clayton_Wetter]

Gee let me think. Wasn't it Paul Ryan that cried for more defense spending to the already rich defense contractors , when the sequester took effect. I guess they didn't hang low enough on the tree. Maybe it was they gave him money and the Veterans didn't.

The fact is you can bet he was the one that was for cutting. Every time he opens his weasel mouth it says cut. There is something wrong with a man that breaks a contract after the other side has been satisfied.

Got your mind made up years ago and not listening to the facts? How about Liteys post with a link explaining the details? Does that not fly with you either?

I have millions of questions for you!!!

Somebody is always buying someone off?? You've got it bad!!!

[Bubstr]

On the back of my enlistment papers, the contract I had with the DOD, that my pay and retirement were subject to the wills and wims of Congress. Not an exact quote obviously, but anybody who stayed in after '94 should have known that this was a possibility as it's been discussed since then. There was a proposal on the table in '92 I believe to keep the 20 year career people from receiving a pension until they reached the age of 56. It was one of the reasons I took an early retirement in '94 after serving for 12 years. I just didn't trust them not to cut my pay.

Then you should know the difference between a earned and paid for benefit and a entitlement. Some of these politicians, especially tea baggers like Ryan, don't seem to understand the difference. It's one of the big reasons they lost the last election. 47% indeed. It will probably be the reason we return to the draft also. You want to tell everyone how much you contributed to your retirement and Tricare? it wasn't free.

[Clayton_Wetter]

How many times have you complained about too much defense spending, by the way???

[Bubstr]

Got your mind made up years ago and not listening to the facts? How about Liteys post with a link explaining the details? Does that not fly with you either?

I have millions of questions for you!!!

Somebody is always buying someone off?? You've got it bad!!!

I have a couple questions for you. Why do Senators, Representatives and Presidents come out of office much richer than when they go in and pay an exorbitant amount to gain that office.

Go watch old cowboy movies where right always wins and the guy in the white hat always gets the girl.

BTW Litie's post said agreed on. Is that supposed to excuse the weasel, who has been whining cut cut cut on SS, Medicare and earned retirements since he was elected to office.

[Bubstr]

How many times have you complained about too much defense spending, by the way???

If you don't see the difference between defense spending and paying debts owed, you better check your scruples account.

[15D]

Then you should know the difference between a earned and paid for benefit and a entitlement. Some of these politicians, especially tea baggers like Ryan, don't seem to understand the difference. It's one of the big reasons they lost the last election. 47% indeed. It will probably be the reason we return to the draft also. You want to tell everyone how much you contributed to your retirement and Tricare? it wasn't free.

All Senate Democrats voted to-nite to stop debate on a plan to reinstate the COLA. Hard to lay this entirely at the feet of Paul Ryan.

Like I posted earlier, unless we get our financial house together, and soon, we will be hearing of these sort of cuts routinely. The Vets are just the first to receive this treatment. Everybody else at the Government teat will feel the cuts. Unlike the Vets, many will become violent over it. Remember that movement called Occupy Wall Street from a few years back, that's just the start of this.

Grave times are just around the corner.

[15D]

BTW Litie's post said agreed on. Is that supposed to excuse the weasel, who has been whining cut cut cut on SS, Medicare and earned retirements since he was elected to office.

Here is a just and honest question: why should I support SS and Medicare as it currently pays out benefits today when by the time I become eligible, I will likely only receive 75% of what current beneficiaries receive? Why shouldn't I insist that cuts to COLA start immediately to ensure I'm likely to receive the 75% for the rest of my natural life once I'm eligible? It seems to me to be the only truly fair policy. I would imagine if a Class Action Law Suit were to actually make it before a Federal Court that the retarding of COLA Adjustments may be mandated.