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  • CIRF
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    • Jul 2007
    • 8122

    #1

    A Book Every U.S. Citizen Should Read

    Just got a glimpse of Bill O'Reilly's most recent book release "Killing Reagan". This book is a exemplary read about a man who is irrefutably the most productive and successful U.S. President of the 20th Century.

    I was never an ardent Reagan supporter during his 2 terms as President but looking back on the way he cleaned up the mess that Carter left the country in and the way he reestablished national pride and exceptionalism his time as President was truly remarkable.

    I would strongly advise all those who both loved him and those who, for whatever reason, hated him to read O'Reilly's book. It tells the whole story, not just the good parts. Reportedly, O'Reilly has caught some flack from some for his objectivity and his avoidance of sugar coating of President Reagan's political career but I believe he tells all the the things that are essential to an honest depiction of history.

    Take a look, I don't think you'll be disappointed.
  • mudslinger47
    Banned
    • May 2007
    • 3452

    #2
    Reagan wasn't nearly as conservative as folks like to portray him, but what he did for the soul of the American people and the pride they had in their country will probably never be matched....

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    • CIRF
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 8122

      #3
      Don't bull$hit yourself, Reagan was plenty conservative.

      According to people I know that have lived in the strange land of fruits, nuts, weirdo's and leftist's long enough to know, they say without reservation that Reagan was the last competent governor of that state. Some of those people are democrats, too.

      The fact that Cali maintained financial solvency under Reagan (actually he presided over some sizable surplus's) and is now on the brink of bankruptcy is proof enough, I reckon. Reagan increased taxes during his tenure as governor of California, but, he also provided tax rebates totaling $5 billion when his policies produced a revenue surplus.

      Many believe his greatest accomplishment as governor was forcefully quelling the violence and destruction being disguised as protesting at UC Berkeley and the subsequent occupation of that campus and city for two weeks. The half wits in Berkeley found out the hard way that law and order would be maintained. We could use a bit more of that these days.

      The biggest mistake Ronald Reagan made as President was giving amnesty to 5 million illegal aliens without securing the Southern border. After he left office he readily admitted it, too.

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      • mudslinger47
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        • May 2007
        • 3452

        #4
        Chill a little bit will ya CIRF.... I'm not calling you out, I live here in Southern Ca.... all I'm saying is he wasn't as conservative as he could have been.... no harm no foul... he was still a great great president...

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        • ss12
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 3730

          #5
          Look at where we are at today because of Reagan. Trickle down is really helping the middle class. Oh wait a minute where did the middle class go? Anything O'reilly put out I wouldn't waste my time reading.
          Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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          • CIRF
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 8122

            #6
            Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
            Chill a little bit will ya CIRF.... I'm not calling you out, I live here in Southern Ca.... all I'm saying is he wasn't as conservative as he could have been.... no harm no foul... he was still a great great president...
            I'm chilled, and I didn't think you were calling me out, we're on the same page here, mud. My take on Reagan's political career is that he was very conservative but knew the limitations of his conservatism. He knew what he could get done and he was able, for the most part, to get most of it enacted. I believe he knew he could only go so far given the opposition present during his day and he pushed his agenda as far as it was possible to push it. He wasn't an all or nothing kind of politician
            Originally posted by ss12 View Post
            Look at where we are at today because of Reagan. Trickle down is really helping the middle class. Oh wait a minute where did the middle class go? Anything O'reilly put out I wouldn't waste my time reading.
            I don't know where you were during the 4 years of Carter but I was very young trying to get myself established in my chosen career and trust me, Carter had the country in a veritable shambles. I personally paid loan interest as high as 20% and double digit inflation was the norm. Ronald Reagan reigned most of that in. However, we're told these days that inflation in nearly flat but prices are going up every day.

            Ronald Reagan's leadership provided the foundation that precipitated and sustained the largest economic boom since WWII during the klinton administration. klinton had very little to do with that 1990's phenomenon, the groundwork was laid during Reagan's 2nd term as President. It took about 6 to 7 years for the benefits to be realized nationwide and the rapist in chief (klinton) erroneously gets way, way more of the credit than he deserves.

            Bill O'Reilly puts his name on these books he supposedly writes but the vast majority of the research and writing is done by others so your hatred of O'Reilly clouds your personal objectivity but doesn't diminish the credibility of the book itself. He may give his blessing to these books but his influence is limited to generalities.

            Reading O'Reilly's book on Reagan is far, far from a waste of time. It gives objective insight to the best President of the 20th Century. Your hatred is partially your path to ignorance, but as they say, ignorance is bliss.
            Last edited by CIRF; 10-15-2015, 08:55 AM.

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            • balljoint
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              • Aug 2011
              • 1774

              #7
              Would have been a better president without Bush Sr lurking behind his back
              Last edited by balljoint; 10-15-2015, 08:56 AM.

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              • Clayton_Wetter
                Banned
                • May 2007
                • 16671

                #8
                Originally posted by ss12 View Post
                Look at where we are at today because of Reagan. Trickle down is really helping the middle class. Oh wait a minute where did the middle class go? Anything O'reilly put out I wouldn't waste my time reading.

                Try Sal Alinsky's Rules for Radicals!!! Maybe you would enjoy that!

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                • Clayton_Wetter
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                  • May 2007
                  • 16671

                  #9
                  Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                  I'm chilled, and I didn't think you were calling me out, we're on the same page here, mud. My take on Reagan's political career is that he was very conservative but knew the limitations of his conservatism. He knew what he could get done and he was able, for the most part, to get most of it enacted. I believe he knew he could only go so far given the opposition present during his day and he pushed his agenda as far as it was possible to push it. He wasn't an all or nothing kind of politician
                  I don't know where you were during the 4 years of Carter but I was very young trying to get myself established in my chosen career and trust me, Carter had the country in a veritable shambles. I personally paid loan interest as high as 20% and double digit inflation was the norm. Ronald Reagan reigned most of that in. However, we're told these days that inflation in nearly flat but prices are going up every day.

                  Ronald Reagan's leadership provided the foundation that precipitated and sustained the largest economic boom since WWII during the klinton administration. klinton had very little to do with that 1990's phenomenon, the groundwork was laid during Reagan's 2nd term as President. It took about 6 to 7 years for the benefits to be realized nationwide and the rapist in chief (klinton) erroneously gets way, way more of the credit than he deserves.

                  Bill O'Reilly puts his name on these books he supposedly writes but the vast majority of the research and writing is done by others so your hatred of O'Reilly clouds your personal objectivity but doesn't diminish the credibility of the book itself. He may give his blessing to these books but his influence is limited to generalities.

                  Reading O'Reilly's book on Reagan is far, far from a waste of time. It gives objective insight to the best President of the 20th Century. Your hatred is partially your path to ignorance, but as they say, ignorance is bliss.
                  There is a reason O'Reilly's books are best sellers, people like to read great books with documentation to back them up. In a time of the left trying to destroy history, they are even more desired.

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                  • ss12
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 3730

                    #10
                    Did Reagan raise taxes? Reagan had the biggest tax increase in history when a war wasn't going on. Did he increase the national debt? Who sold guns to Iran?

                    O'reilly really didn't write this book he just put his name on it? Kool aid anyone?

                    Reagan's Benghazi - Around dawn on October 23, 1983, Beirut, Lebanon, a suicide bomber drove a truck laden with the equivalent of twenty-one thousand pounds of TNT into the heart of a U.S. Marine compound, killing two hundred and forty-one servicemen.
                    Last edited by ss12; 10-15-2015, 07:29 PM.
                    Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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                    • Clayton_Wetter
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                      • May 2007
                      • 16671

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ss12 View Post
                      Did Reagan raise taxes? Reagan had the biggest tax increase in history when a war wasn't going on. Did he increase the national debt? Who sold guns to Iran?

                      O'reilly really didn't write this book he just put his name on it? Kool aid anyone?

                      Reagan's Benghazi - Around dawn on October 23, 1983, Beirut, Lebanon, a suicide bomber drove a truck laden with the equivalent of twenty-one thousand pounds of TNT into the heart of a U.S. Marine compound, killing two hundred and forty-one servicemen.
                      You are not going to put down Reagan to me. That is your feelings. And not actually the facts, and that is misleading.

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                      • ss12
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                        • May 2007
                        • 3730

                        #12
                        Reagan raised taxes in 82,84,85,86,& 87. Now there is one thing the democrats screw him on and I will let you figured that one out. Here is a little hint 1 to 3. He cut the taxes for the top bracket from 70% to 28% so the job creators could create jobs. He just didn't say the jobs would be created in China.
                        Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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                        • mudslinger47
                          Banned
                          • May 2007
                          • 3452

                          #13
                          But one thing you can not deny..... Reagan was loved, deeply loved by a huge plurality of the American public....we felt good about our leadership...didn't have to worry about him lying every other sentence like we have now... we have the bulk of the country proud of their country and their leadership...and you guys got Obama... he wouldn't be worthy to suck the sweat of Reagans sack....

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                          • ss12
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 3730

                            #14
                            Mud I didn't really mine President Reagan. I even voted for him. My whole point was he was no better than anyone else. Now if you where to say the last good president he had since the 80's was Ronald Reagan I could agree to that.
                            Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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                            • CIRF
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 8122

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ss12 View Post
                              Reagan raised taxes in 82,84,85,86,& 87. Now there is one thing the democrats screw him on and I will let you figured that one out. Here is a little hint 1 to 3. He cut the taxes for the top bracket from 70% to 28% so the job creators could create jobs. He just didn't say the jobs would be created in China.
                              The largest tax increases instituted by Reagan administration policies was social security taxes and the closing of loopholes in the tax code. The Reagan SS tax increases are the reason why SS security is still barely sovent. Without those increases SS would be completely broke.

                              Every economic parameter except personal savings was at better levels during the Reagan years than before or after. Interest rates and inflation dropped precipitously during the Reagan years. Personal income jumped by an average of over $4000.00 per household. Carter had the country in such dire straights it took someone like Reagan to hammer out solutions.

                              The biggest reasons for the increase in the federal debt under Reagan was the build up of military might that brought about the disintegration of the Soviet Union. It's safe to say it was probably worth the cost.

                              I suggest you you put aside your bitter hatred for Reagan and O'Reilly and read O'Reilly's book about Reagan and get your facts and perspective straight.

                              The raw hatred for Ronald Reagan by many Democrats is palpable to this day. A lot of the reason why is because the contrast between Carter and Reagan was stark and undeniable. Reagan fixed much of what Carter fukked up and Reagan debunked much of what Carter and those of his ilk stand for and it galls the hard core haters to this day.

                              Ronald Reagan would handily beat every U.S. President we've elected since he left office in 1989 and would still be in office to this day if he were alive and the 22nd amendment didn't exist. Reagan epitomized the class and dignity befitting of the office. Something sorely missing in the present occupant of the White House. Does Al Sharpton, pimp with a limp, Zach Galifianakis, GloZell, Shawn Carter among others ring any bells? Those are just a few of the folks that have been embraced by the present President. Plenty of class and dignity among those names, don't ya' think?

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