Tiregate lawsuit?

[Barbecueboy]

Regardless of who wins, the fact that they got the courts involved is a bad... bad.. thing. Have you ever seen anything that the government touched turn out better than it was before?

Thanks,
Jeff.

Like you and everyone else so quickly pointed out and said about the drivers can now be said about woo, ump etc........

They did it to themselves.

[Barbecueboy]

I didn't label them as anything, I just pointed out that promoting is much more difficult than being a fan (showing up at the track with a cooler and enjoying a night at the track). I know this from experience as on the days when I have my promoter hat on I'm exhausted, while on the days when I go to the track to spectate I am generally just having fun and enjoying myself.

I only mentioned that because a lot of promoters I've met started as fans who felt like they wanted to do something to help the sport. You asked if the reason why the processes you seek have not been developed simply because promoters are lazy and I just wanted to point out that most of us became promoters (IE volunteered to do more work) by choice and so by definition are not lazy.

Thanks,
Jeff.

If it were only me that wanted the changes I would agree with you...........you sure do like to make this only about me.

[Cardirt0]

Agreed, the tour I run certainly isn't the USMTS, Renegades of Dirt, or SEDMS -- but it isn't trying to be. The only goal I had when I started the series was to expand the division beyond the one track it was running at in my area. Now it runs at three tracks as a regular division and we have seven shows this season at six tracks (our average car count is 24 over the three races we have run so far). I am fully open to advice from anyone on how to continue to grow the series, just shoot me a PM.

Thanks,
Jeff.

Find 1 fan at each track that loves racing as much as you.. Then find a fan at the new tracks you want too add.. and ask them too help.. If you find the right fan they may put in more hours then you...keep it small and Clean But You can all was use help but it needs too be Good help...

[Dirt Racing #1]

SsMajority of jd's wins. Are he runs the top cushion. Sure he can run the middle and bottom of the track. But obvious he can't run those lanes that well. Or he would win more often running on bottom or low. He is one trick pony. Until he can win anywhere on the track. He will always be

[ClampedUp]

We run in two states (MD and PA)

So lets say that is correct and there is no fee. That lowers the negative dollar amount from $3,750 to $3,400. While being $3,400 in the hole is a lot better than $3,750 it is still a lot more than anyone can expect someone to personally incur for providing a service to others.

You say that like there is something wrong with being a casual fan (the driving force behind the entire sport, and the reason why any of it exists)

Thanks,
Jeff.

Do you know in Pennsylvania if you are being paid from the results of a scale they are to be certified and calibrated annually by the Pa Dept. of Agriculture Weights and Measures officials.
Has already been proven in Pa. court a track was in the wrong.
That little annual inspection sticker would prevent this kind of deal from happening unless you think your series and tracks are above State law??

[Clayton_Wetter]

Didn't everybody weigh on the same scales then why wasn't somebody else light .

Because they were not.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Ya know i was a diehard richie evans fan & still am. He was the best ever to set in a mod but i dnt act like you bloomer fans. Ik he was the greatest and let whoever race against him and beat him if they could. Its just really pathetic how yall are.

So we are pathetic for what? You quilled around here and bragged to the point of it being sickening and obsessive last season and had your "in your face fun". Now you can't do that anymore.

So now you are paying the price. Time to jump your bandwagon. hahahhahahahahhaaa

[Clayton_Wetter]

I find a couple of things kinda funny here. First all you trailer park attorneys who believe the scales were off because they allege so in their lawsuit. You do know they can claim anything in the filing and just because they do does not make it fact? They could have added two Unicorns were present while the scales were being tested and you people would be talking about how amazing it is that Unicorns showed up at a race track. Why would the track have allowed anyone to run test on the scales? If the state came in and ran test why and how would Bloomer and his slimy gang have the results? Now the funniest thing in this lawsuit has to be that Bloomer is claiming his reputation has been hurt. Is this the same guy who has been caught cheating on tires how many times? Is this the same guy that has drug convictions on his record? How do you hurt the reputation of a proven scumbag? I mean that is Richard Pryor kinda funny... The biggest mistake they have made is including Tony in this. He will spend a million dollars on attorneys just to break these guys. The five of them together do not have and can not come up with millions of dollars to fight this. They can not win, If by some crazy azz chance they do win I hope you all know it will be the end of short track racing. Not the start to the end but an instant stop to the sport. Not a single promoter in America will take the chance on loosing everything they have if a bunch of cheaters decide to sue them. This bogus lawsuit only proves that Bloomer is a much bigger scumbag than even I thought he was... Doug Wolfgang had the entire racing world turn on him because he sued to get money that he needed and deserved, yet many of you seem to think this is great because it is Bloomer. He should be banned from ever racing a car again.

Wow, what a load of crap. Now tell us how you really feel. hahahahhahahaaaa

[Barbecueboy]

Also, for the series there would be no annual inspection sticker. If we had to maintain our own scales they would need to be inspected on site at each event after the scales were set up. You couldn't just have one inspection for the entire season -- which goes back to my point about it being impossible for most small series'.

Thanks,
Jeff.

Sounds like your series is about become defunct in PA........if those are the rules of the state.

Rules are rules........no matter how she tty they are.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

So we are pathetic for what? You quilled around here and bragged to the point of it being sickening and obsessive last season and had your "in your face fun". Now you can't do that anymore.

So now you are paying the price. Time to jump your bandwagon. hahahhahahahahhaaa

Ya gunna b dumb ya gotta b tough cw. I learned just how some fans really are. Im jumping no bandwagon here

[Cardirt0]

Doug Wolfgang had the entire racing world turn on him because he sued to get money that he needed and deserved, yet many of you seem to think this is great because it is Bloomer. He should be banned from ever racing a car again.

Wolfgang was Hurt not robed.. And i for one was on his side, he was Hurt because that they did not have a way too put out the Fire...Need a Fire truck at the track.. There was not one...I dont think that is Great that Bloomer is doing, But it is what it Is, sometimes it has too be done.......

[Cardirt0]

Sounds like your series is about become defunct in PA........if those are the rules of the state.

Rules are rules........no matter how she tty they are.

Not true... If someone is lite and Driver says I dont think so call up the state have them check the Scales,,, if they are off... Pay the man move on...If they are not off They are DQ...There is all ways a way You just have to find it...

[left_turn_only]

How about....

OK, so track scales are not going to be consistent. That is a given. Degree of consistency will vary from track to track, also a given. The key to any weight rule is to make that inconsistency fair to all racers and within the scope of the local law.

How about a rule where the first car to register pulls a pill from a jar with 10 pills with a minimum weight listed on each pills. Could be 2496lb to 2505lb for example. The weight number pulled will be the minimum weight all cars scaling must meet as indicated on the "track scales" for those racing that day. The rule is clear that the minimum weight allowed is for the pill weight drawn and "as reported on the track scale". Track acknowledges the limits of track scales to all racers.

There would be no pre-race posted minimum weight rule, only a listing of the numbers on the ten pills.

[Aluminium Block]

Drivers like Bloomquist are what has ruined the sport. Drivers making a living off this sport has driven the costs up to where Late Models aren't viable at weekly tracks. Drivers like him continue to push costs up by trying to use ultra-expense equipment so they will be superior (like the Penske shocks etc.) This particular driver is known to push the limit, and has been caught illegal before. He was caught again, and now wants to win a multi-million lawsuit over it? This is a typical, American white-trash-try-to-get-rich-quick lawsuit.

[Cardirt0]

Drivers like Bloomquist are what has ruined the sport. Drivers making a living off this sport has driven the costs up to where Late Models aren't viable at weekly tracks. Drivers like him continue to push costs up by trying to use ultra-expense equipment so they will be superior (like the Penske shocks etc.) This particular driver is known to push the limit, and has been caught illegal before. He was caught again, and now wants to win a multi-million lawsuit over it? This is a typical, American white-trash-try-to-get-rich-quick lawsuit.

This is a Lawsuit that may have need too be done.. But you are kind of right just the wrong driver too bring it....I said years a go the WoO and Lucas oil would Hurt DLM racing .. and its coming true....